eagleeyedtiger

Ah yeah, that makes sense. I didn't really think about it enough.

I guess technically we do have system kind of like that, maybe not as strict. Every speeding offence gets demerit points, and I believe if you get 100 in a two year period you get a suspended license for three months. But I did just read that you don't get demerits for speed camera offences, I'm not sure why that is.

Oh I agree being on time is good. But it shouldn't count as a "fail", just needs to be rescheduled if they're too late. The test is for assessing driving competency, not time management. Unless I'm reading it too literally and that particular comment in the article was hyperbole.

Ah thanks I'll read up on it a bit later.

Thanks that's kind of interesting.

Following introductions I was politely informed that if it were a real testing situation, I would have already failed because I was five minutes late.

However I think this is bullshit.

My dad tried to give me driving lessons when I was going learners > restricted and it just ended up in arguments. I had pretty low driving confidence when I went into the tests, which is probably what affected me. I'm definitely shelling out for lessons for my kids when they're of driving age.

I guess it makes sense that they wouldn't publish the details.

I think it's a case for a lot of people that they study to pass the test rather than study to retain information or change their habits. That's why I think advanced driving courses/lessons are a good idea. I never had them and ended up failing my first go at one of the practical license tests. I can't remember if it was my restricted or full though.

By any chance do you know which countries have mandatory third party car insurance? I'd like to find out a bit more

That's interesting. I love to know in what way the restricted and full test have changed if there's details anywhere. I don't think anyone drives like they do in the tests. I'm willing to bet if they made everyone take a another practical test when they're 40 or 50, many full license holders would fail.

But is there a point where it's too low that people don't even think twice? I mean currently for anything up to 10km over it's only $30. Even in Australia the lowest I can see is at least $100. $30 is like skipping a takeaway meal or two.

I agree that increasing punishment in every case doesn't always work though. But it just seems too low to me.

I think the fines for speeding here are too low. We should follow some of Australia's pricing if we actually want to discourage speeding. It's clearly not high enough if people can consistently get fines and not even bother to change their habits.

I'm only ok with this if they add mandatory third party insurance or a mandatory defensive driving course.

Honestly it's been so long since I've done my full license test, I can barely remember it. I don't know what it's like now, but I remember people complaining a few years ago how some testing stations are so busy it takes months to sit or rebook a full license test. I don't actually think it's going to make much difference to the quality of drivers we have.. unless policing and fines become a lot stricter.

Oops I forgot to vote.. please forgive me!