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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

I think honestly it’s not just the conflict of interest threat that warrants someone in public office divesting themselves. We’re seeing that it’s better for the companies too - keeps them insulated from the impact of unpopular decisions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Why do you persist in treating the rich differently? They are just people. They aren’t a special class of people that are better or smarter. They just have more money.

Treat everyone the same, and this comes out as “why tax people”. Well, that’s a complicated question with a pretty clear answer that I don’t think is worth repeating.

Stop assuming they’re better than you. They aren’t.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Civil society requires the willing participation of the populace. It’s the best kind of society, but it’s only available to a culture that has decided not to be assholes.

I choose not to be an asshole. Even when it would be easy. Even when it would improve my life or mood or bank balance. I refuse to idolize people that are assholes. Even if they’re rich.

Even in the strictest of command economies, the opportunity to be an asshole exists. You can’t command your way into a scenario where the choice of villainy is simply unavailable. Every single one of us has to make the choice to turn away from the pull of assholery ourselves and to refuse to countenance it in others.

I still believe that we, as a species, have both the capability and the requirement to step back from that cliff. We’ve done it before. Mostly, I don’t want to live in the world your approach would create. I think the only people that would enjoy it are the folks you’ve given your free will away to.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I’ll argue! Most of this is simply wrong… but first I’m going to reject the premise of your argument.

You’re providing a false choice by suggesting that money can only be concentrated or diffused and that it can only be concentrated or diffused at the level of the single individual. You’ve placed two extremes on the table (a command economy driven by oligarchs vs a command economy driven by autocrats) and asked us to pick.

I pick neither. A command economy is not necessary to achieve reasonable societal goals, and it’s not necessary to flip the switch all the way into a 1950s Red Scare version of communism to be able to see where the economic model of unfettered capitalism breaks down.

The next problem is that you conflate the question of “how should the government collect taxes” with the question of “how should an economy operate”. Those are different questions with different answers, but the underlying principle is the same.

The government should prevent circumstances in which being an asshole is financially rewarded. The citizens should try to avoid being assholes. A civil society should correct the behavior of people that are being assholes using social pressures.

In the economic arena, that basically boils down to “not fucking over the little guy”. The government should seek to prevent circumstances where the little guy gets fucked over. The citizens should try not to fuck each other over. A civil society should shun those who violate that norm.

In the taxes arena, that basically boils down to “pay your fair share.” We all know what that looks like and feels like because we’ve had to divvy up the check after a long night of drinking. Folks with cash throw in some extra to cover their friends that might be struggling, a couple of people that are doing well might just “make the check right at the end of the night.” It works out. People know how to do this instinctively. People, by and large, know what their fair share is. Some just don’t want to pay.

In a situation where people consistently make the moral choice to not be an asshole, a lot of economic models can work. The breakdown isn’t in the economic model, it’s in the role of the civil society - society is not enforcing the “don’t be an asshole” rule. Instead, we’ve decided to idolize the assholes.

There’s not an economic model that works when everyone is trying to fuck over everyone else.

You’re focused on the wrong problem.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Dude that line of reasoning went out with Reagan, and the last time it worked was in the 1920s. You might want that to be how the rich behave, but mostly they just lock capital away and watch the numbers grow.

We don’t need an economy based on pandering to rich assholes in the hopes they give us money. We need an economy where everyone pays their fucking taxes. It’s that easy. If the very wealthy stopped hiding their money and coming up with impenetrable tax evasion schemes and just paid their taxes like everyone else, we wouldn’t have to raise them on anyone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Betting White House networks are too locked down to game on. If Elon is gonna live under the stairs, he needs his leet gaming setup.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

No. When you create something that gets used for propaganda, you have three choices - speak out, stay silent, or support it. None of those options are apolitical.

I think you’ll see a combination of 2 and 3 out of agency leadership. #3 whenever possible, #2 if supporting Trump’s statement would touch off internal protests.

I think the overriding objective right now is to protect the workforce and I think the leadership in place is willing to do what it takes to achieve that goal. I don’t know if the workforce is willing to see the kind of pandering that will likely require, and I’m not sure even a maximum pandering platform will work.

One way or the other I think the agency may be fucked.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Not sure this was a thing he decided to do. M2M and the Artemis campaign have been relatively protected so far, and that’s largely rumored to be Free’s doing. My sense is that he wouldn’t voluntarily leave his post.

Leaders like Jim are in the “Special Executive Service” (SES) and can be reassigned basically at the whim the government (Ref: us code). In the past, SES have been encouraged to depart by being reassigned to an undesirable post or a post geographically inconvenient for them and their families. In general, executives treated in this fashion take the hint.

Jim is a methodical and thoughtful engineer that cared about and protected both his people and the mission. I’d say he deserves better, but it’s probably healthier for him not to have to participate in the dismantling of the agency he loved.

Ad astra.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Interestingly as of this moment it does not appear to have happened. Not clear why.

 

I’ve got no clue how many people this will turn out to be, but I’ve heard a fair pile of corroboration.

I’ve wanted to work at NASA since I was six. That’s a common story at the agency - most folks have to work hard and make conscious decisions from high school on to get there. The folks I’ll be saying goodbye to on Tuesday are literally the best and brightest of their generation - people with brains and determination that chose to take worse pay and underfunded lab environments to serve their country and have arranged their whole lives to make that sacrifice possible.

I mourn for them, for the agency, and for the future they could have given us.

 

I am really sad that those 800 people are feeling the same thing that the govvies are. The folks on the chopping block were not the ones responsible for the problem. In my opinion, plan should be to keep the engineers, lose the suits.

 

Can confirm.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Not hard to guess why I’d be concerned. I think my answer is fair and consistent with the behavior of mods on other sites with similar communities. If it comes out on top of the votes, I’ll make the request and sell it as best I can. Best I can do.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

(Note - folks may look around at the dizzying numbers of uses of the meatball or the worm in our popular culture. My bet is that the bigger corporations have an agreement, smaller ones are skating. I think it’s unwise to do anything that might poke the bear.)

 

Petition granted.

Here’s the plan. For a period of two weeks, this post will be stickied. During that time, anyone who wants to can submit a banner or a community icon or both. Requirements are below. Submissions that are not compliant but are really cool may be granted a waiver at the discretion of the mod, but don’t test me.

I will not permit this to become a shitshow. I have not yet thought about what to do with someone that posts content with the intent to troll or make anyone uncomfortable. I would prefer not to have to think about it. My kids would tell you that statement is one of my most dire warnings.

Requirement - Banner Size: Banner proposals shall be in a resolution of 2040x500 with a maximum size of 100kb. Rationale - that’s the biggest number people are giving on the Internet best I can tell, so I can crop it if I need to.

Requirement - Icon Size: Icon proposals shall be in a resolution of 512x512 with a maximum size of 100kb. Rationale: Same as above.

Requirement - Standards Compliance: Use of official NASA logos or logotypes shall meet the intent of the relevant NASA guidance: Brand Guidelines Rationale: I’m capricious, I guess.

Requirement - Positive Vibes: Submissions shall be positive in nature and focus on contributions of the agency to the world. Rationale: Let’s not focus on the short-term nonsense. Overall, it’s a positive mission with positive benefits and some really cool outcomes so let’s try to keep the overall sense of things in line with that. As an example, anything specifically referencing the current personnel actions will not be accepted.

Requirement - A Good Effort: Submissions shall have a high level of graphic quality and composition as determined by the moderator. Rationale: No stupid MSPaint drawings, we’re better than that. Give me something I can use. If art just isn’t your thing, that’s okay - give it your best shot and explain what you’re doing. I’m actually pretty good at this kind of stuff and I’ll help if it’s a good concept.

Requirement - Broad Message: Banner submissions shall communicate the diversity of NASA’s mission. If any reference to a specific mission is made, references must be made to missions from multiple directorates. If any reference to a person is made, references must be made to a range of people that accurately indicate the makeup of the agency and of the population that agency efforts inspire. Rationale: Big agency, I’m sensitive to it being portrayed as all about Moon 2 Mars. Generic rocket launches (as long as they aren’t SLS) don’t count. The people thing I hope y’all understand. I will give exemptions for obvious reasons, but try to meet the intent.

Requirement - No Nazis: Submissions shall not reference the likeness, words, or results of work done by Nazis or Nazi sympathizers. Rationale: There was a time I wouldn’t have needed to say this. I know the troubled history of NASA’s beginnings, not sweeping it under the rug, but let’s focus forward for the banner shall we? I consider SpaceX to be run by Gwynne Shotwell, so SpaceX stuff is explicitly acceptable and I don’t want to hear any complaints about it. Specific reference to the CEO of SpaceX will be handled on a case-by-case basis. Please refer to the “positive vibes” requirement. Please refer to the “no shitshow” policy statement. Please don’t make me regret doing this.

Requirement - Top Level Submissions: All submissions shall be top-level comments to this post. Rationale: It’ll make my life easier. All top-level comments that are not submissions will be deleted. I will add a top-level comment to collect meta-discussion.

Requirement - Voting: The community moderator shall collect all compliant submissions and post them in a poll for community feedback. Rationale: I don’t want to have to interpolate from upvotes. Too much work. I’ll post a poll for voting when the submission period ends.

Ok. Let’s see what you’ve got. :)

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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

IYKYK. We’re under a continuing resolution, so it’s not like there’s any money for buyouts, it’s not possible to pay what they’re proposing. It’s not severance, nothing about you getting to stop working but still getting paid. Be very thoughtful, talk to your union reps if you’re in a bargaining unit. Nobody be rash.

Edit: Link for interested folks - Reuters article

 

So… things are getting strange and unpleasant and unpredictable. I’m excited about discussion in the sub, good with disagreement, I think I’ve deleted like 2 comments in the whole time I’ve been here. Say what you want, by and large. But… I’m going to ask folks to assume positive intent and refrain from personally attacking folks. Not usually a problem here, honestly it’s pretty quiet, but I’m getting the feeling that quiet isn’t in the cards for the next few years.

Same rules that (usually) apply at the agency - you can disagree passionately, but ultimately we’re all on the same team and working towards a common goal.

Every once in a while the name in the news post is someone I know that’s being put in a really shitty position. Appreciate y’all understanding.

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