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sadly there isn't enough.

Ok cool make a true communist society and then I can.

Whatever mate people didn't volunteer their art to be scraped by ai so even if it's not plagiarism exactly, as defined by you or whomever, that doesn't mean that it's ethical or people like it.

And most don't.

And again this isn't just about images, there's also the environment and misinformation, plagiarism in academia (and that fits your definition) and a plethora of other issues which are not related to capitalism at all.

Great you ignored my other issues with that, but also you don't think people would collectively be using those resources? Also the water used for those ai servers isn't great.

Do you realize that it's still contained away from the water cycle and making water shortages way worse? Waste water is still water.

That's the best response and reasoning I've read in this whole conversation

*therefore

Even if it looks good, it's slop.

Nah, it's more like "I'm sick of the eyeball stabbing machine that was built to stab eyeballs, I wish people would stop using it and stabbing my eyeballs"

Ai by it's nature does nothing but plagiarism.

Completely untrue.

The environmental impact would still be as bad, it would still spout out misinformation, it would still scrape for art against people's will, the images would still be shit and not art anyway, and would still make an intellectual sinkhole.

What a myopic view of artistic creation. You're ignoring all ancient art, anything from pre history, and only thinking of art as things that are sold, popular, or known. A kid's crayon drawing and a doodle in a notebook are also forms of art. Art isn't only digital either. Humans have a desire to create, and watering that down by saying kids can just tell a robot to draw for them is repugnant. It's the loss of a valuable skill and something intrinsically human.

And that's just the art side of ai, not even the problems with the environmental impact, misinformation, arguable theft related to it's creation, etc.

There is a big difference between the statue of David and a 3d printed figure of it. Even if it was the same size and even visually identical, the hand carved one is always more important to people, because someone put the effort and thought into it, and the other is a cheap replica.

So you're argument is that under communism we'd have less ai and it would be developed slower? Not exactly saying ai is a good thing there, and it doesn't really cover the inherent issues related to it's existence.