TheFogan

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[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 19 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Honestly I don't get how AI isn't rolling backwards already. Image sites are burried in AI slop. Social media posts are burried in AI slop, and now e-mails, that were probably written by AIs. How is AI even remotely improving right now, when obviously 90% of any new training data it's getting, was generated by the last generation of AI.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah I don't oppose the toggles, just seeing the unintended consequence. IE if most users disable accounts under 1 week old... then most new users will think no one looks at their posts... and give up, before they have a chance to learn that's what's going on. It's kind of the fear because it's not those who use the setting that actually see the negative consiquence, besides the possibility of no growth in the platform as a whole (due to people leaving discouraged).

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I mean I could see it, obviously moderators wouldn't use it. Idea is of course is bad actors will get banned or bored after a certain amount of time. Of course if it's not basing it on amount of posts or some level of activity, then that may just cause trolls to bulk produce accounts, and start using them as they hit a certain age.

When you do it by activity, then you run into the side problem. IE say someone is introduced to lemmy because there's a community focused on a specific topic they need help on. People create an account, post for help... but get no replies because obviously they haven't hit the activity threshold so, they effectively start out shadowbanned. They assume the lack of responses is because the communities aren't active and don't stick around long enough to figure it out.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

Maybe he's just Pichai is just really smart and trying to get the breaks slammed on the AI bubble before it pops.

Listen if this works the way you think it does, half the country is going to be out of work. CEO: but our company will make a lot of money right, someone else is going to do it eventually anyway.

OK, look if this works the way it is supposed to, we won't need you anymore!

Oh shit, hit the breaks, no more AI, it's all a bubble anyway.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 10 points 1 month ago

Very true, though with windows automatically updating to new versions and forcing upgrades, IMO the time to do it is when they would otherwise be forced to make a full version change anyway, as the differences between 10 and 11, are probably more than a windows 10 themed linux.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Unfortunately they kind of are... it's kind of the insanity of the system we live in... their car sales are down everywhere, but they are making more from government contracts and AI speculation.

Which yeah was part of why my added exception was if the military is going to buy a shit ton of toyotas. Government perks have ot outweigh loss in sales

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

I did mess that up, did mean early 2016, or even early 2024.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 115 points 1 month ago (22 children)

Wow, he's really not reading the country very well is he? 2020, that was a 50/50 move, piss off half the country, earn the support from half of it. (again just talking on a purely business strategy), unless the millitary is about to buy a shitload of toyota's, I don't see how this isn't a horrific play.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 10 points 1 month ago

I mean, even giving her all the credit humanly possible to someone who's acted insanely crazy for as long as she's been in politics. I don't believe she's said anything to even imply trump is in them. Only that he's seemingly opposed to releasing them, and that clearly some powerful men don't want them released.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago

Agreed there too, there probably could never be a large enough pool of safely organized data to actually make a child safe chat gpt. But yeah kind of the key issue I agree with.

also agreed on the inevitable implosion of generative AI. I think we're basically hitting moores law on it where there isn't enough data to even remotely train it much further than it is, and the mass output of AI data now, is we'll certainly be very soon hitting extreme repercussions of "incestuous data". (IE the internet is getting flooded with AI slop, AI models are searching the internet, won't be long before the copy of copy of copy problems lead to everything going backwards).

So yeah, agreed AI was always bullshit day 1. The greatest flaw was releasing it to the public in it's infancy, and it's very early on super impressive demos in a form that your average boomer accountant could see it and go "that's amazing"

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

I'm not doubting the problems of any government. however to make the case that it's not grounded on the fear of communism... It's not like that's exactly uncommon in countries we are continuing to do business like NBD, Isreal, Russia, Saudi Arabia to name a few off the top of my head.

Again not disagreeing with the general concept that communist countries aren't exempt from committing atrocities. Difference is a capitalist country does them "it's a growing pain", or "they are starting out, once they get big enough they'll fix it, just like the US did".

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 27 points 1 month ago

Yeah to me that's the biggest objection... he's long dead, he has no surviving family that wants good for him to my knowledge. So to me that's kind of on the same level as, digging up mummies. The evil actions he commited in life don't really come into play here, and agreed it's really stupid idea to think that his behavior is genetic.

Kind of reminds me of when most of the nazi generals swore to have no kids to not carry on their DNA, except one, who said "No I won't sign that pledge, that's eugenics which is nazi ideology".

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