Riverside

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[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 0 points 4 hours ago

It's a useful shorthand, not a slur

I would argue that demeaning shorthand expressions used in a negative connotation against people who have been systematically discriminated, imprisoned or even assassinated, is an appropriate descriptor of a slur. Communism has been seriously repressed, from "milder" forms like McCarthyism in the US purging communists from all public life and condemning them to unemployment, to more direct methods such as literal extermination through forced labor and murder as in my homeland of Spain. All Marxists from Spain were either murdered or had to emigrate to Mexico or the USSR during the 1930s.

Again, you can admire their public transport without supporting the government

Exactly my point, and the reason for my original comment.

According to it, they've transitioned from putting uyghur in camps to putting them in prisons

Not really. They're documenting the existence of prisons in Xinjiang, but there's absolutely no evidence of mass imprisonment of Uyghurs based on their ethnicity or religion or any other grounds. Prisons exist in all countries, not exclusively in China, and China doesn't have particularly high rates of imprisonment compared to countries like the US.

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 0 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

You're just denying the whole principle of Self-Determination

Did you ask Tibetan people what they believe of this? There hasn't ever been any significant independence movement in Tibet regarding this. I could compare that to my homeland of Spain, which had literal terrorist strikes from ETA because of Basque independence movements, and Catalonia's extremely tense political situation that led to the imprisonment sentences of high-profile pro-independence politicians such as Charles Puidgemont or Oriol Junqueras. Nothing like this has been seen in Tibet, you're literally pretending you know better about the self-governance of Tibet than Tibetans themselves. There is not any significant pro-independence political or social movement in Tibet, you're making up the question of self-determination based on ideas and comparing with the west without analyzing the particular situation of Tibet or the desires of Tibetans.

Yeah, sure, the Hun live great lives in Tibet

You probably mean Han? Are you really trying to argue about ethnic policy in China and you literally cannot spell the name of the majority ethnicity in the country? You're not arguing from a point of being well informed and well-read on the topic, you're literally repeating Reddit comment-level propaganda.

what about the ethnic-Tibetans? This is like saying the territory of Palestine is much better as it is now with a big chunk of it occupied by Israel

Honestly, you're just showing you are literally making up reality with that comparison, proving yet again that you have literally no idea about the topic. Ethnic Tibetans make up 85+% of the population in the region, Han peoples are 12%ish. Open a book for once in your life and stop regurgitating anti-China propaganda which is clearly not coming from a well-intentioned nuanced critique but from literally made up realities. It's absolutely fucking insulting that you would dare compare the living standards of ethnic Tibetans in Tibet with the literal genocide of Palestinians in occupied Palestine. This conversation is over, I don't argue with genocide denialists who minimize the genocide of Palestinians by comparing it to the living conditions of Tibet.

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 0 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (3 children)

That's the "they were ruled by evil dictators so we freed them" argument so beloved by Americans

The difference are the results. In Tibet now there's a high development index state with conservation of their culture, traditions and language, a functioning government with autonomy, and high levels of education and welfare. In Iraq, Syria and Libya, you have dismantled failed states, terrorism, religious extremism, disintegration of infrastructure and a total lack of education and welfare state. If you cared a minimum about informing yourself on Tibet and its inhabitants, you'd know this, instead of swallowing the American propaganda whole and using Tibetans as a political weapon instead of considering them as people with an agency and power.

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com -1 points 8 hours ago (5 children)

Communist China has invaded and annexed Tibet.

This is over 50 years ago as I said, and you're mischaracterizing what happened. Tibet was a feudal kingdom where the vast majority of the population were starved serfs legally bound to the land of their god-given lord. China liberated Tibet from feudalism and rose life expectancy and material conditions massively, while preserving their heritage, language and culture, and a degree of autonomy within China higher than most other regions (Tibet is an autonomous region).

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I installed Linux Mint and I'm having fun with some extremely cheap RISC-V microcontrollers (ch32v003) using the open source toolchain of ch32fun. Having a blast!

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 0 points 9 hours ago (7 children)

The exact same Principle applies to judging the Russian aggression against Ukraine

The Russian republic had armed conflict in the 90s and 2000s with the Chechen wars, it has precedent of militaristic attitudes.

the American and Israeli aggression against Iran

The US had armed conflict in the 90s, 2000s and 2010s, and Israel has been genociding Palestinians since its inception

and the possible Chinese aggression against Taiwan

China doesn't have a recent history of militarism. It's pure speculation and kinda senseless looking at China's attitudes towards Taiwan and their extensive trade agreements.

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Then ignore the etymology and focus on the historical facts, what do you have to say about them?

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 0 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Which is why I proceeded to explain you the history of repression and discrimination of communists in western societies.

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 0 points 12 hours ago

Oh wow, thank you so much <3

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 0 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

It's not an insult, it's a description of your political position, a shortening of the word "liberal" in the USian sense of the word. I'm not even from the US, you can hardly call me MAGA.

What's green MAGA? Genuinely curious, I never heard that before. Maybe following the teachings of Gaddafi's green book?

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 points 12 hours ago

Absolutely! I wouldn't say I'm super knowledgeable but I've had my reading on the theory and history of communism, much more than the average person at least, though not as much as comrades like @Cowbee@lemmy.ml

Anything you wanna discuss in particular?

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 0 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

tortured and murdered millions, hundreds of millions of people

You are making up the numbers, proving your ignorance.

I can list a bunch of countries that are relatively free, and have high rates of literacy and strong worker protections, that are not communist (pretty much any developed democracy since the late 20th century)

And you're going to ignore the hundreds of millions of people enslaved and murdered by western capitalist colonial regimes, because you dont apply the same standards to socialism that you do to capitalism

There is literally no communist country where people are acceptably free and don’t or didn’t want to get out to flee

Bullshit. The Soviet referendum in 1991 proves otherwise, the vast majority of people in socialism wanted to stay in socialism.

I'll stop reading because you're just repeating western anticommunist propaganda and you haven't made 1% of an effort to actually get informed on the topic. Suffice it to say that if ir weren't for socialism in Europe, the Nazis would have won.

Edit: I see that you were born in a post-Soviet country. You can thank communism for your country to exist as a country and not as a colonized Nazi settlement with you and your family murdered or enslaved :)

 

cross-posted from: https://reddthat.com/post/61215155

Authorities in Tehran have called for international action and solidarity after several hospitals and schools were impacted by United States and Israeli air strikes on the country as Iran continues to fire missiles and drones across the region.

Iranian Ministry of Foreign Affairs spokesman Esmaeil Baghaei said on Monday that the two countries “continue to indiscriminately strike residential areas, sparing neither hospitals, schools, Red Crescent facilities, nor cultural monuments”.

"These actions constitute the deliberate commission of the most heinous crimes of international concern. Indifference to this ongoing and extreme injustice will only further darken the future of humanity by jeopardising the shared values upon which our global community stands,” he wrote in a post on social media.

Pir Hossein Kolivand, the head of the Iranian Red Crescent Society, wrote a letter publicised late on Sunday to the president of the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), demanding an explicit condemnation of attacks impacting children and educational and medical centres.

"The Red Crescent Society of the Islamic Republic of Iran, as a member of the global Red Cross and Red Crescent movement, declares its full commitment to the fundamentals of humanity, impartiality and independence, emphasising that damaged centres had no military applications,” Kolivand wrote.

Multiple Iranian hospitals have been damaged as a result of air attacks and were evacuated by authorities, but there are not believed to have been any direct strikes on any hospitals yet.

World Health Organization Director General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said reports of damage to the hospital are “extremely worrying” and the United Nations agency is working to verify the incident.

 

Authorities in Tehran have called for international action and solidarity after several hospitals and schools were impacted by United States and Israeli air strikes on the country as Iran continues to fire missiles and drones across the region.

Iranian Ministry of Foreign Affairs spokesman Esmaeil Baghaei said on Monday that the two countries “continue to indiscriminately strike residential areas, sparing neither hospitals, schools, Red Crescent facilities, nor cultural monuments”.

"These actions constitute the deliberate commission of the most heinous crimes of international concern. Indifference to this ongoing and extreme injustice will only further darken the future of humanity by jeopardising the shared values upon which our global community stands,” he wrote in a post on social media.

Pir Hossein Kolivand, the head of the Iranian Red Crescent Society, wrote a letter publicised late on Sunday to the president of the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), demanding an explicit condemnation of attacks impacting children and educational and medical centres.

"The Red Crescent Society of the Islamic Republic of Iran, as a member of the global Red Cross and Red Crescent movement, declares its full commitment to the fundamentals of humanity, impartiality and independence, emphasising that damaged centres had no military applications,” Kolivand wrote.

Multiple Iranian hospitals have been damaged as a result of air attacks and were evacuated by authorities, but there are not believed to have been any direct strikes on any hospitals yet.

World Health Organization Director General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said reports of damage to the hospital are “extremely worrying” and the United Nations agency is working to verify the incident.

 

Israel’s Defence Minister Israel Katz said Israel had waged the attack to preemptively “remove threats to the State of Israel”.

Several missiles have struck University Street and the Jomhouri area in Tehran, Fars news agency reported. Some was seen rising in the city, according to an Al Jazeera correspondent on the ground

A US official told Al Jazeera that the attacks were carried out as a joint military operation with the United States, which has assembled a vast fleet of fighter jets and warships in the region [...]

As sirens sounded in Israel, the Israeli military said it had issued a “proactive alert to prepare the public for the possibility of missiles being launched toward the state of Israel.”

Israel’s Airports Authority announced airspace had been closed to all civilian flights and urged the public not to come to the airport.

 

To start things well: I'm not trying to start an argument, and I'm not trying to ask for this in bad faith. I'm a Spanish Marxist-Leninist who despises the fact that the Second Republic did nothing about fascists until it was too late.

When I discuss the topic of the Soviets being the only ones to materially help the antifascists in Spain (selling modern tanks and aviation, rifles, munitions and teaching them how to use them), very often I encounter anarchists bringing up the repression of anarchists by communists, particularly related to the Barcelona events. However, when I've asked for literature with a quantitative analysis of this, I've never been given any numerical estimate of the extent of the repression. The Proles Pod episode (Timestamp: 1:18:00) on the Stalin Eras that touches the Spanish Civil War quotes the estimate that less than 20 anarchists were confirmed to have been killed by Soviet agents during the entirety of the conflict, but they only mention the study and they don't name it as far as I've found.

When this happens, I'm often told to read a book. I've found and read many estimates of Soviet repression in the USSR in different works, but never encountered anything about communist repression of anarchists with numerical data attached regarding Spain. So this is my request: I don't want personal anecdotes of an anarchist in prison, I want actual, modern, historically sound numerical estimates of this repression. There are such things for, for example, the Makhnovschina, so there must be something similar for republican Spain. Ofc, I can accept sources both in English and in Spanish!

Thanks a lot <3

 

There should of course also be 10 Palestinian flags in the Republican railway but it didn't fit. Also the previous OP seemingly forgot that BLM started halfway through the Obama era, and Ferguson happened well within democrat mandate.

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