me_irl : me

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Democratic socialism good

Communism bad

(Dropping this here just to see what happens)

[–] MrsVeggies@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 hours ago

Sorry, I'm taken. 😝

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

"Bite the pillow, I'm going in dry."

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

That's on the other list

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"I sell propane and propane accessories"

[–] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Here's my panties, tell me more

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

"You want to taste the meat, not the heat"

[–] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Fucking right I do

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For those of you who don’t know, “I love you 3,000” is a quote from Avengers: Endgame. It’s particularly adorable because it’s said by a little girl, and three thousand is probably the largest number she can imagine.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Thank you for providing additional context. I didn't know that one. But why did she say a number at all?

[–] wieson@feddit.org 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Is it something to do with "I love you 4ever" "I love you 5ever"?

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 9 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

It's one upping.

I love you

I love you two

I love you three thousand (that number's too big, can't beat that one)

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 7 points 23 hours ago

Why? Just a little kid being a kid.

She had said something like “I love you two hundred” to her mom, and her dad was joking with mom about it.

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Arachno communism then

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Best I can do is Anarcho-Usrsus maritimus....

Edit: wrong one

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Ursus maritimus joining class war on a side that wants to usurp means of climate change would be a great addition to 2026

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago

Honestly? With how everything has been panning out so far....it might be the only bright spot we get....

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Please no spiders!

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 5 points 17 hours ago

Come my little ones, put this traitor in gulag

[–] oyzmo@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

yes ☺️

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

"Heat from fire, fire from heat."

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

I understood that reference

[+] DougPiranha42@lemmy.world -17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I will never understand how people casually throw around communist talking points like these were not the talking points of some of the worst, most oppressive regimes ever. And the same people then are very vocally outraged when they hear fascist slogens (rightly so, but why is communist shit cool?).

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 9 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

How many communist countries are currently bombing the shit out of other countries today?

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz -5 points 15 hours ago

The russia?

[–] E_coli42@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I forget what the fallacy is called, but basically just because thing X is associated with Y and Y is bad doesn't make X bad. If a communist leader killed people, it doesn't necessarily mean communism is the reason he killed them.

In the same vain saying fascism is bad "because Hitler was a fascist" would also be a logical fallacy. Hitler also drank water but that doesn't mean water is bad.

[–] DougPiranha42@lemmy.world -2 points 20 hours ago

That’s not a very good example, because good and bad people drink water, pretty much everyone does. Here is a list of communist states:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_socialist_states_(communism)

I’d say that all of these sucked to live in. There are definitely states that treat their citizens better than these. If something always leads to death and suffering, maybe we can conclude that it’s a bad idea. Communists are not “associated with“ communism, they are communism.

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

You would do well to read about this ideology you speak of. Those "oppressive" regimes you talk about have brought such brutal repression as tripling life expectancy, raising literacy to 100%, universal healthcare and free education to the highest level, guaranteed jobs and the abolition of homelessness, guaranteed retirement pensions, working rights, and fight against colonialism (including saving Europe from Nazism).

Communist shit is cool because communist ideology is literally the source of all material progress in society, from the 40h working week to the welfare state. Fascism represents the polar opposite, which is the exact reasons why the first thing fascists do is to murder communists (ask Rosa Luxembourg about that).

[–] DougPiranha42@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

How can you equate “seize means of production” and “class warfare” (things in OP) with 40 hour work week (not in OP)? Are Stalin’s and Maos bloody dictatorships that terrorized, tortured and murdered millions, hundreds of millions of people, examples of progress of society? I can list a bunch of countries that are relatively free, and have high rates of literacy and strong worker protections, that are not communist (pretty much any developed democracy since the late 20th century). There is literally no communist country where people are acceptably free and don’t or didn’t want to get out to flee to one of the not communist countries. I hate the “its such a nice ideology just every single fucking time its followers came to power they had to torture and murder their fellow citizens to stay there”. You know, “seize means of production” in practice means that the government, or people who have friends in the government, go and take away other peoples shit: farmers, small businesses, house, a pig, anything they want, and all they need to do is call the victim a bourgeois or capitalist. This is how it worked in practice in every socialist/communist country that ever existed, lmk if you have a good counter example. And guess what: people get hurt in the process, lives are ruined.
Class warfare. Who the fuck wants to live in a society where everyone is a worker? Economically, a worker means someone who doesn’t own anything other than their future ability to work and earn wages. Every society that looks remotely liveable has a strong middle class: people own real estate, business, investments. These would all be crimes in communism. And now you can explain me that no, that’s not what’s so fucking cool about communism, I still get to keep my house and retirement fund, just have to work less and get more free stuff from the government because the only reason I wasn’t getting those things previously is that they didn’t realize how cool communism is. btw I don’t want to read a bit about the ideology, I was born in a communist country and have a pretty good idea what it was like for people living in that system. Edit: removed an offensive statement.

[–] wieson@feddit.org 9 points 17 hours ago

I think you got it the wrong way round.

"Seizing the means of production ", means that every worker is now also an owner and investors into the company he works at. If you like owning and investing, that should sound cool to you.

Democracy should be everywhere in our lives, not only once every 4 years, that's why democracy at the workplace is important.

The workers wouldn't get "free stuff from the state" they would get to decide what to do with the surplus value the created with their work. Do we have a bigger payout? Do we invest in more production, more research? All these decisions would be held democratically by the workers AND managers.

Btw did you know, that you are in a class war wether you want it or not? There is one class waging war on you, one class that has class solidarity, and that is the Epstein class, the billionaire class. They steal the value you create any chance that they get. And what do they do with it? Invest it into hospitals? No. In the best case scenario they hoard it. In the worst case scenario they use it to rape and kill.

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

tortured and murdered millions, hundreds of millions of people

You are making up the numbers, proving your ignorance.

I can list a bunch of countries that are relatively free, and have high rates of literacy and strong worker protections, that are not communist (pretty much any developed democracy since the late 20th century)

And you're going to ignore the hundreds of millions of people enslaved and murdered by western capitalist colonial regimes, because you dont apply the same standards to socialism that you do to capitalism

There is literally no communist country where people are acceptably free and don’t or didn’t want to get out to flee

Bullshit. The Soviet referendum in 1991 proves otherwise, the vast majority of people in socialism wanted to stay in socialism.

I'll stop reading because you're just repeating western anticommunist propaganda and you haven't made 1% of an effort to actually get informed on the topic. Suffice it to say that if ir weren't for socialism in Europe, the Nazis would have won.

Edit: I see that you were born in a post-Soviet country. You can thank communism for your country to exist as a country and not as a colonized Nazi settlement with you and your family murdered or enslaved :)

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Edit: I see that you were born in a post-Soviet country. You can thank communism for your country to exist as a country and not as a colonized Nazi settlement with you and your family murdered or enslaved :)

That is a super fucked-up thing to say. Go thank Ceausescu for committing genocide in Romania (yea, not soviet, but under USSR's influence)

What

The

Fuck

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 points 52 minutes ago* (last edited 25 minutes ago)

I don't know what part seems cruel to you of explaining that the Nazi project, which the Soviets stopped, included the enslavement of genocide of all non-German peoples between Berlin and the Urals, Romania included (sooner or later). Since you're Romanian, the Soviets also literally saved you from your own fascist regime. I do not wish harm on you or your family, rather the opposite, I'm thanking the Soviets for saving them.

Go thank Ceausescu for committing genocide in Romania

Literally not a thing, stop manufacturing nonexisting genocides. There was repression under Ceausescu, but there was absolutely no genocide. Can you please link me up to what you're referring to as "genocide"?

As for what the Ceausescu government did in Romania, per data from the Romanian Statistical Review: Between 1950 and 1989, Romania's GDP grew by 850%. The country went between 1950 and 1989 from being composed of 86% agricultural workers (essentially a feudalist state), to being an industrialized society with 46% of the population working in the industrial sector. This industrial revolution literally turned a nation of starving peasants into a rather modern and industrialized country with infrastructure, guaranteed housing, free education, universal healthcare and guaranteed jobs with no unemployment.

Look at what happened to the population of Romania after Ceausescu:

4 million in population losses... It's really no wonder that even after 3+ decades of anticommunist propaganda, the majority of Romanians still view Ceausescu as a good leader and believe that life was better in socialist Romania.

[–] Yliaster@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Not the original commenter, but you seem to know a bit about communism (I'm currently looking into it)

Would you be up for a discussion on communism?

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 points 15 hours ago

Absolutely! I wouldn't say I'm super knowledgeable but I've had my reading on the theory and history of communism, much more than the average person at least, though not as much as comrades like @Cowbee@lemmy.ml

Anything you wanna discuss in particular?