JailElonMusk

If John Barron needs help he can tap in James Donald Bowman.

Oops I mean James David Hamel.

Sorry I meant J.D. Vance.

From Junk Drawer Vance himself “Any old D name would have done, so long as it wasn’t Donald,”

Hope his passport doesn't expire before 2026, actually wait I hope it does!

Agreed. That's my motto for everything in life.

So if it added ".06 to the cost of a four dollar hamburger" to pay people a living wage, why are we not doing this everywhere?

Is it millionaire greed? I bet it's millionaire greed.

Brad Close, CEO of NFIB (National Federation of Independent Businesses). NFIB speeds more money lobbying to keep people poor (124 million) than than take in each year (113 million).

Brad makes over $480/hr (or 1 million dollars a year) to lead a company that tells the government you shouldn't make more than $7.25/hr. He must be 66x smarter and more productive than those making minimum wage.

That's just one example, look up Serv-Safe and the National Restaurant Association. It's not an accident these workers are poor, it's on purpose.

The only time I have agreed with Felon Musk.

I'm pretty sure I watched a very persuasive infomercial from our president on why we should buy them.

This is obviously due to the liberal media brainwashing consumers not to buy them.

OR...

It's produced by a Nazi.

It could be that this vehicle has averaged a major recall every 60 days since release.

Gas pedal detaches itself for spontaneous fully automated joy rides.

It looks like what happened if oops all polygons fucked a roll of tinfoil.

It rusts, the panels fly off, and if you take it through a car wash it'll total it.

It hasn't lived up to any of the hype or range estimates stated.

The trailer hitch is held on by the polycarbonate (plastic that went to college) frame, so enjoy causing a massive traffic fatality while towing (even within the recommended towing capacity specs).

It's 14 times more dangerous than the Ford Pinto which was on the market 3x longer and became synonymous with explosions.

Lastly, it's become a way of explicitly telling the world I have a $100,000 truck and a $10 brain.

Is this the same Bayer company that made the Zyklon B pesticide used in Adolf Hitler's gas chambers?

I am shocked, that they wouldn't warn consumers that their products cause cancer and then would want to cover it up?

Shocked, I tell you.

That's a good and thoughtful question, with no easy answer.

My opinion is I don't believe you can force someone to receive help, but you can incentivise them through rehabilitation, job training, counseling and housing.

At the end of the day, we need to respect their rights and not infringe on them. If they don't want help, then they are part of the .06% that chooses homelessness.

Absolutely, and thank you for your reply. Learning and expansion of ideas and thoughts only comes from good conversation and discourse. That's what makes this such a complex and difficult issue.

There is an inevitability of homelessness in a country is unavoidable, yes. Just like the inevitable need for criminal justice programs to detain, deter, and rehabilitate those who break the law.

No argument from me on the facts, there WILL be homelessness and crime in any society. (This is for my sunshine and rainbows friend up top also).

So let's figure out how much that SHOULD be:

https://www.greaterchange.co.uk/post/which-country-handles-homelessness-the-best

Finland currently has a homelessness rate of .06% (2023) of their population. So let's say that's the baseline when you give people a fair shot, benefits, and treat them with care, and the remaining of those people that won't take help when offered.

The United States has a rate THREE times that at .19% homelessness. Despite having a GDP output, 83 times as large as the US.

Since I went to public school, percentages make me woozy so let's put it in whole numbers.

636,500 fellow citizens are homeless in the US (.19%).

If we adopted Finland's (already proved 35+ year plan) we could get that down to 201,000 over time. Heck if it takes 35 years as well, at least we're helping them.

That's 435,500 fellow citizens (Or a city the size of Cincinnati) that are sleeping on the street tonight, so that ONE MAN Elon Musk can pay less taxes.

Fellow Americans, until we vote these billionaires out of office and tax them (oh I don't know, at least as much as you and I pay) we are either ignoring the issue or complicit and I for one don't want to be either.

TL;DR: This is just one example why we should lift up those below us, and not be pessimistic about our fellow man.

Most of our homeless want a fair shot, mental health counseling, and rehabilitation.

We need to advocate for them and help them just like if we were reading this sleeping on the street.

Alright I'll bite, even if Hairplug Himmler is right (and let's be perfectly clear, he's not).

Why wouldn't we as Americans want to help our fellow citizens overcome drug use, treat mental illness, and help rehabilitation efforts on their behalf?

ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE "VIOLENT" and "on the street". Wouldn't we want to help them get off the streets?

Wouldn't that make us safer, happier, healthier, and dare I say... Great Again? Wouldn't that protect citizens and police officers alike at a lower cost than incarceration? (Spoiler alert it would, but there's no private for profit companies offering this service).

Wouldn't these people become tax payers? Employees contributing to society? Become future homebuyers and start a family?

These empathy lacking neo-fascist clowns can't stop punching down to those less fortunate (while claiming the lords name in vain) and I can't wait for the day we get the opportunity to match their empathy as they head to prison (preferably one in El Salvador).

That's a good little free speech absolutist.

Remove content you are responsible for creating because you are self incriminating yourself.

Billionaire fear is back on the menu boys!

Keep it up and one day we'll toast to his incarceration, hopefully with all the "empathy and due process" they've been showing to our America citizens and green card holders.