ArtificialLink

The why doesn't someone at scale make sustainable phones?

A 3.5 mm jack is just more stuff that needs to go into the limited thickness of a smartphone. They also need to be made water-resistant, and it's just another potential point of failure. And for those who don't use them, they're a useless lint trap. Overall, they just cost more to produce which puts more cost onto the consumer.

Thus is straight up a lie. They cost less than a dollar to buy and put in a phone. Even the thinnest iPhone could have one without it impacting space and finally they are just as easy to waterproof as usb c port.

But yeah keep regurgitating the same facts big companies want you to use cause a extremely backwards compatible analog audio standard is less "convenient"

Pixels have 7 years of updates. Lol.

Do they have the same level of sustainability or ethical sourcing? No. But they still do uses plenty of recycled materials for its production.

But its a way better phone hardware wise for a price that is very similar. With enough "eco washing" for most people to not give a shit.

This is great. Too bad they take away all your movement abilities in New game Plus so even when you go back through the game you can't get any of those things that you missed the first time. Because you have to reacquire the ability first.

Which is a damn shame.

I don't prefer wireless headphones, as can probably be told by my impassioned argument. But I also recognize the convenience of them, even if I think it's not that much of a convenience over a pair of wired earbuds. I just see no reason other than their bottom line why they couldn't have given us both options.

You already have to make a compromise in your hardware choices when choosing a Fairphone, because their hardware is simply put nowhere nearly as competitive to the other phones out there that compete in their price category, with the longevity of their updates as well. That singular choice demonstrated to me that the compromise you have to make for a more sustainable phone is ultimately not worth it, because they're willing to sacrifice their sustainability in order to push sales of another one of their own products.

No because wireless headphones are not sustainable.

Also and this is my opinion they don't compete at a disadvantage because of their sustainability. They compete at a disadvantage because they have yet to make a phone with hardware that actually makes them worth buying. They're whole selling point is sustainability but nothing else makes their phones worth while when there are other players in the industry with better hardware at the same price and with software updates for close to the same length as fairphone.

So to me when their whole brand is focused on sustainability and you have to give up better hardware for that yet they make a whole unsustainable decision and remove the one feature that most phones has dropped for "industry standards" why would i ever consider the company?

Never called them evil. Id probably put it closer to misguided.

They are battling for industry standards? Yet they just follow the industry trend?? Which is it? imo you can't have both.

It just informed me of the fact they if they were tasked with doing something for their consumers and longevity or doing something for their bottom line they are gonna pick their bottom line. Right now most their bottom line benefits from being "eco aware" telling you they will be in it for the long haul. But I don't really trust that will always be the case cause they already showed what corner they thought they could cut and still keep users "happy". Influence And Money destroys most.

Wireless headphones are destined to be landfill waste practically from the day they are made. Just because they made theirs a little user serviceable doesn't negate the fact that when the Bluetooth codec on em gets too old or incompatible they will be trash. Unlike wired headphones which don't need to rely on any of that and can last basically as long as you take care of them or the physical materials degrade.

It's just bullshit to me. There was no reason to do it other than industry trends and their want to sell their own wireless headphones (another industry trend).

There was no reason they couldn't do both keep a headphone jack and sell wireless headphones. But they looked at the bottom line and went with the option that was good for their pockets, not their consumers.

Just insane cope. Reddit was a stable ecosystem where breaks like this for a big update were acceptable. But lemmy its not the developer cashed in on the bag when everyone first tried to move over from reddit and then abandoned the project less than a year later. Fuck him.