Trying to keep the Americans out.
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Americans feel attacked
A blow to all the Americans who's favourite show is the Sapranos.
Well all those tickets to ellis island were one way...
Oof, RIP to the Lemming I saw posting about that
Welp that sucks. I was trying for that route and in the middle of researching.
Don't lose hope yet. See https://www.boccadutri.com/italian-citizenship-by-descent-decree-law-36-2025/ for a rundown on the timeline for the expected court challenges to this (along with the legal justifications to challenge this).
Same. Feels bad. At the same time, it will probably be challenged. There's already precedent set.
Even if upheld by the constitutional court, there's still a use for the research and docs search.
From https://www.mazzeschi.it/italian-citizenship/italian-citizenship-by-naturalization/
Applications for naturalization can be filed after ten years of legal residence in Italy, which can be reduced to:
- 3 years of legal residence, for those who were born in Italy or who have parents or grandparents that were Italian citizens
Example: Ettore’s grandfather was an Italian citizen. Ettore has now been living in Pisa, Italy for 3 years. Ettore can apply for Italian citizenship at the relevant Town Hall where he has established his residency.
And if your great-great-grandparent was born in Italy, then there's a good chance that your grandparent born abroad was Italian (even if never registered as such). So not as easy as before but having an Italian ancestor is still helpful in regaining ties with the country...
Yeah my case was going to be a 1948/pre1912 through a great great grandmother that didn't voluntarily renounce italian citizenship, so already a toss up from what I've read. 🤷♂️
I'll keep an eye on this development anyway, of course. The details of this bill seem hyper aggressive and my first instinct is it wouldn't pass in its current form. But if this is this big of an issue then it seems likely some version of it will pass at some point. And I'm nowhere near having my documentation ready. I expect to need a CONE, to amend my gggm death certificate, at a minimum...
Yeah, especially that they just announced it with both immediate and retroactive effect, so no warning to those who were almost finished with the documents and ready to apply. I feel really bad for those who were just ready to apply on March 31st...
Good luck!
I thought italy was offering basically free housing to attract younger immigrants due to their aging population? Are they scared of the american wave? Lol
From reading other news reports it seems like this was pushed through because not enough folks were actually establishing a connection to Italy and just trying to get into the EU. Remember that one of the changes is that if you have the Italian passport today, but you were not born in Italy, you can still pass it on to your children - you just have to live in Italy for two years first.
According to https://www.studiolegalemetta.com/press/italian-citizenship-jure-sanguinis-restrictions/ they're also planning to require spouses to live in Italy for two years before allowing them to naturalize (currently a spouse who lives abroad can naturalize regardless of where the couple lives).
And another planned change is to allow minor children of Italian citizens to naturalize after living in Italy for two years.
Rightly or wrongly, the basic theme seems to be that they're trying to push more folks who want the Italian passport to actually move to Italy.
It was just an exploitable loophole and normal migration is still an option.
Elon....yes please sign these papers to have a chance to win a million and be my daddy!