Or we could you know, reduce the number of guns. Wonder who the investors are in these school "safety" companies.
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I'm all for gun control. As in, significant reforms, nationwide reforms. Real background checks. Limits on the types of guns. Insurance requirements. Safety training requirements. The list can keep on going....
That said, I'd still want an emergency alert system in schools. There are other threats and other situations where it could be needed, there is nothing wrong with having both.
As in, significant reforms
See: Australia.
Juuuust about ideal, definitely.
Sure, except we are defenceless to the rampant dropbears. /s
Australia is a funny example for gun control. Yanks seem to think we have no guns at all, but the reality is that as long as you are mentally sound and store your guns safely, they aren't that hard to get.
as long as you are mentally sound and store your guns safely
Yeah, that's a pretty substantial improvement to what we have in the US.
According to polling most Americans support stricter gun control measures but not a ban. As usual, it's the Electoral College and FPTP (IMO, no country with either should be listed as a full democracy. Not USA, not UK, and not Canada.) Still, it is true that the gun issue is too often presented as binary (but I'd actually say this is just as common with foreigners arguing for gun bans as it is with Americans arguing against it.)
Which do you think is easier, getting a system like this installed in a school, or changing US gun culture?
For the US, I think it would be so slow at catching up to more developed standards of gun control that it would be generational and not a matter of years. It's not so much the laws that are currently in place that's the issue, it's the lack of regulation that's created such an ingrained culture that's going to take a long time to evolve. So, technology like this would stil definitely be utilised in the future.
My thoughts, anyway.
And honestly, I didn't even realise there was another school shooting in the US. Internationally, I guess it just gets covered less and less because it's not really "news" anymore.
I don't think it even made the news here in NZ, if it did it was just one brief story.
Mass shootings are a matter of routine in the states.
I first saw it on salon under a story about Steve Doocy being an idiot. They barely make the news in the US unless there's some extra aspect that makes it unusual.
Hmmm, one involves fleecing school district funding in a grift, the other reduces profits to armaments manufacturers.
I really can't figure this out! How is it possible to know?
How is this a grift? The system worked as intended, did it not?
And yes, changing the culture and mentality of an entire nation is the harder option. Do you really think otherwise?
Yes, let's spend money on a system that only helps people in a specific set of buildings only during specific parts of the day and year when the buildings are occupied, rather than doing anything that would help society at large, at all times and anywhere in the country.
Like I said, it's impossible to know what the right thing to do here, much less actually do it.
You genuinely are an utter moron.
I’m sure that’s a comfort to the families of the two kids who died and the two adults who died.
Make sure to tell them that everything will be fine now across the nation since there will be panic alarm systems instead of, you know, FIXING THE FUCKING GUN PROBLEM IN THE FIRST PLACE.
The price of freedom: murdered children.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/freedom-index-by-country
Sounds like we got scammed there too.
just ban guns like every other first world country thats all we ask....
But there's no way to prevent this, according to the only nation where this frequently happens.
Guns aren't banned in any first world country.
Just more regulated.
Regards, a German gun owner.
Guns are pretty much banned in Japan and the UK.
Still, presenting it as a binary is harmful to the movement, when Americans regularly poll in favor of stricter gun measures but not an outright ban.
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No, no! To prevent these shootings it's obvious that removing every kid's trigger finger is the best solution. First we need companies to emerge that can receive these fingers and keep them alive and healthy until the kids are 21 years of age. We should also remove their penises. Sure we could teach sexual health but that's not something you want in school! Plus just imagine all the money 💰💰🤑🤑 to be made during the removal and reattachment procedures!!! There could be re-attachment ceremonies! And they're kids so you're bound to end up with extra fingers in case the 4th of July goes wrong or because the 4th of July went really wrong. And you can choose the orientation! Forget opposing thumbs! That was between us and the animals! Imagine opposing pointing fingers! What couldn't you do! What couldn't you do indeed!
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GOOD! These Alarms that are only used AFTER CHILDREN HAVE BEEN KILLED will Protect Our Children from being Killed!
The caps lock makes this sound like a Boomer Facebook post.
Check out their profile, it's quite literally their only schtick.
It's pretty basic formatting to put emphasis on specific words.
Gov Abbott already gave law enforcement a verbal handjob for standing around while 20 people were murdered. If we can't get our numbers down to that of other civilized nations then we're utter failures at keeping our citizens safe.
I like these badges, and want them for my school. First, we absolutely need better gun laws and need to change the gun culture in the United States. But even the school shooter stuff aside, we have 700 elementary kids at my school. Several are prone to seizures. Several are diabetic. MANY have life threatening allergies. Several have disabilities (or poor parenting/lack of resources at home) that leave them prone to outbursts that at a minimum disrupt the classroom and at most endanger the safety of the other students. We do not have enough walkies to give one to every teacher who has a severe need in their classroom. That leaves the option of calling the front office or going to the wall and pushing the call button for the office to respond. Badges like this can help so many stressful situations, and eliminate the excessive amount of chatter on a walkie.
How does that even work? I’m glad lives were saved but the system must have something I’m missing.
If there is a button on the back of the badge with your picture on it, you can’t use someone else’s badge. It also means there are electronics in the badge, and therefore a battery.
Over time batteries will die and the badge system will become useless unless everyone gets new badges once a semester.
I think the way the article worded it is confusing. Every staff member wears a photo ID badge, which is pretty common at most schools. At this school, their photo ID badges have a little button on the back. When that button is pressed, it activates the system.
I’m sure the buttons have little batteries inside them, probably similar to the type of battery in a smoke alarm. These types of batteries can last for years. However, many school districts issue new photo ID badges to staff each school year, so perhaps batteries are being replaced at that time if needed.
Over time batteries will die and the badge system will become useless unless everyone gets new badges once a semester.
Or, you know, change the battery. Which would take seconds per unit if you're doing a whole bunch of them.
Which would lead to a gap in protection. It’s also not clear if the battery is easily serviced
For a matter of seconds as someone chucks a new battery in the badge, sure.
There's not a lot of information about how the system actually works, but schools are typically quite budget conscious organisations, so I can't imagine just throwing out the badge when the battery dies would go down well.
Mate it's a trivial problem
I'm curious, but not curious enough to watch three videos to see what you're getting at.
Then don't. Why you gotta announce it??
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