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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Just a note to add, this is just the re-confirmation of this year, the two previous years they have had no-logs policy audits as well :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Good, thats what people pay them for.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Well if it wasn't Id cancel the subscription.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Same. I don't even use it for torrenting. Been using it more and more just for simply browsing the web.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Proton’s great for torrenting since they support port forwarding for their paid tiers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh do they now ..? How much are they? My PIA will be expiring next year and I'm not liking for they're shying away from port forwarding (especially on the android tv app)

I feel like they're going to pu$$y out and pull a Mullvad soon.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Pull a mullvad? What did mullvad do? I thought they were still one of the best

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ah. OK thanks. Usenet is way better than torrents imo so I haven’t needed a vpn in over a decade.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Man I really gotta look into that further....

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I switched to them after mullvad (i I also tried airvpn before Proton) and it works great.

One extremely annoying thing with Proton VPN is that the port changes after every single (re)connection so you need to reconfigure your torrent client.

Fortunately there is a fork of the VPN client I use which automatically configures qbittorrent with the new port.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I have this problem as well, been joking to myself that it's "the price I pay" for using an otherwise fantastic VPN lol.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

That announcement was the biggest eye-roller all week.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

not to criticize proton's product, but trying to act like you're doing something special by buying audits when that's what any recognized and reputable VPN brand does makes you look like noobs

talk about your servers, speed, support, etc-- that's what sets you apart from competitors

edit: lol wouldn't have pegged this crowd for a sensitive bunch. my mistake, carry on trumpeting your audits lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

They don't act special, they act in an open and respectful manner towards their customers.

what any recognized and reputable VPN brand does

And what makes a VPN brand recognizable and reputable if nobody knows that they passed the audit?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

talk about your servers, speed, support, etc-- that's what sets you apart from competitors

All of that can easily be judged by any customers. The no-logging part can't be checked by regular customers

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

“Trust me bro, I ain’t keeping logs.”

Vs

“You don’t need to trust us, we don’t want you to trust us when we say ‘we don’t keep logs’. We have an unbiased and unconflicted third-party audit our service every year. You can review their findings for yourself here.”

Trust me, bro.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Comes back to edit, but doesn’t address any of the comments. 😔

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I think a good sense of criticism is always good. And I don't like loyalty, ever. But, no matter where you go, there will be a rule of thumb that people will blindly follow. None of this will make me likable though because of the lack of trust I show them with everything.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

rule of thumb that people will blindly follow.

i'm over 40 and am still confounded by this. brand loyalty always struck me as the dumbest possible behavior from people whose only value to the brand is in their wallet. i guess it's easy to believe the company really truly cares about you when that's what they pretend to do

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You're getting downvoted because you're conflating contrarianism with critical thinking, and people have already pointed out your mistaken logic.

It has nothing to do with brand loyalty. You're just falling into the other side of the "herd mentality" coin.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

one hilarious thing i've learned is that any particular brand's fanbois hate being called fanbois LOL

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There are very few of us, and it's probably a DNA/brain wiring thing. Kinda like me looking at republican as if they are aliens because they can watch trump and think what he's saying is good, and totally not like a dictator such as hitler.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

right. the party of "individual liberty" and "small government" who also wants the government to mandate what gender you're allowed to bump uglies with and outlaw porn