As predicted.... And people piled on me here when I question why they were falling head over heels over bluesky when it was yet another techo bro platform
this post was submitted on 27 Mar 2025
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I thought about it but lemmy seems more genuine.
No karma. No nothing. Just info.
This was more a Twitter vs BlueSky comparison... not against Lemmy, not sure I understand your comment
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Fucking same! It baffles me how dumb people can be over and over again
I noped out the second I heard Dorsey was involved. Don't care he isn't anymore, it got the Techbro ick! Eurgh 🤢
There is a legitimate reason for this: it’s the only way to provide content creators with evidence of how many people actually clicked on the link.
The downside is that there is so many ways that a feature like this can be abused by BlueSky in ways that can hurt users.
No, it's not the only way. You could track the click with JavaScript.
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Yeah, it's literally the second step of enshittification, where platforms stop allocating value to users and start allocating them to publishers. This is still Bluesky expanding out its surveillance apparatus, something it will have every incentive to abuse later on like other platforms before it.
Why do content creators need to see how many clicks they get?
It's how a number of them get paid.
I think I would like to go back to social media before people were getting paid for it
Thats the fediverse!
I would like to go back to the 90s and 00s where the internet wasn't being monetised at every fucking opportunity.
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There is no way it isn't already being abused, there are zero guard rails on it
Fucking typical, a move that hurts the platform long-term is being cheered for by ignorant idealists while the makers of its demise are already salivating and cartoonishly rubbing their hands in glee
The content creators themselves could use a link that goes through a counter if they really need it, no?
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This is not enshittification. Many other knowledgeable users who actually know what they're talking about have explained why.
It's not exactly enshittification yet. The service still mostly works. But it is an attempt to build a wall around the garden.
Fuck walled gardens. That shit got old years ago. At least with FB you could pretend you didn't expect it. Maybe. If you're oblivious, at least.
I don't really see how. Other AppViews and custom clients don't do this. Its just a few lines of javascript in the frontend.
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What is wrong wth a fucking discount code to show where you hot the referral.
I refuse all cookies everywhere and the internet works just fine.
I've given up trying to save people from obvious traps. They refuse to listen and they refuse all data.
Even if it didn't go to bluesky.app first before the actual link, clicks on it can still be made to be tracked. It's trivial to do it much more discreetly.
It is definitely tracked, but I would guess that turning it into a bluesky link has other uses, not all nefarious, such as: link previews, caching, dealing with dead links.
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Bluesky has been doing enshitification since it didn’t mind having that transphobic man on their platform, as far as I’m concerned.
which one?
Guessing we're talking about Jesse Singal. The man who was banned and then allowed back in after negotiating directly with bsky staff.
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Jesse Singal. The other person that replied reminded me. When I left his being allowed to be on the platform was a bit of thing.
For reference you can disable this with unlock origin https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uAssets/pull/27500
fuck it's almost like the world runs on capitalism
Yeah, this is why BlueSky's openness is always only to a point. I will say it's probably not as bad as some are making it out to be, but it's definitely not something you want to see from a platform purporting to be open. Fortunately this is only a BlueSky thing and not the entire AT Protocol... but at this point, the AT Protocol and BlueSky are inseperable. I mean, are there even any other AT Protocol sites?
I use duckduckgo. It shows the sites I’ve visited, and tracking attempts. And, yes, there are tracking attempts from bluesky. There are no tracking attempts from lemmy.ca
https://www.howtogeek.com/118915/duckduckgo-isnt-as-private-as-you-thought/
Just gonna leave this here.
They never needed to redirect to do that in the first place. It's probably just done for convenience. Websites quietly tracking outgoing links has been technically possible since the '90s.
As someone who ran a popular link shortening platform let me tell you how difficult it is to curtail spam links.
This is likely a way to warn users before being forwarded to fraudulent websites that a link has been marked as spam.
There are many other use cases for this redirect as well but this is the most obvious for user safety.
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