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Disney on Sunday pulled its ABC stations, ESPN and other cable networks from DirecTV’s lineup as the two companies failed to reach a new distribution deal, leaving millions of sports fans in the dark as the college football and NFL seasons get underway.

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[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

One monoply fighting another monopoly... Break them both up into smaller pieces.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

“Whoever wins, we lose.”

[–] Copernican@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Isn't the point of directtv kind of anti monopoly. Satellite has no specific footprint like cable where geographic monopolies are carved out.... But the real monopoly is when it's all exclusively on ESPN or whatever Disney's streaming service is. Like apple TV with mls being the 1 global streamer.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

AT&T and Google don't have any problem being monopolies without a geographic lock on things.

AT&T purchased DirecTV, then to get out of direct monopoly charges they spun it off as its own company but retained 70% ownership.

Just about every decent sized company out there is just a single entity in a giant monopolistic trench coat.

[–] Copernican@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

"is" or "strives to be" a monopoly? I think the value of monopoly criticism gets diluted when used to liberally to not actually describe them. I would not say every "decent sized company" out there is a monopoly...

[–] citrusface@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Feeling sorry for all the direct TV customer service reps right now.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If it makes you feel better I'm sure AT&T is working on replacing them with an AI chatbot as we speak

[–] citrusface@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

lmfao i love this. ima steal that

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

Technically at&t doesn't own DirecTV anymore but they do have a big share, and DirecTV still uses a lot of their back-end tools. Probably support infra too?

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My dad is ready to tear them a new asshole tomorrow when they open 😂

[–] citrusface@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Tell your dad to keep asking for a manager and don't stop until he gets someone who can tell him something. Don't take it out on the front lines.

[–] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

We left the room with Bob's Burgers or King of the Hill or something on FXX. By the time we got back that shit was gone

[–] oohgodyeah@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This also screws over AT&T U-verse coaxial TV subscribers, like me, not just internet-streaming DirecTV customers :(

[–] comador@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We all have our last straw with CableTV, maybe this is the one for you to cut the cord too! It's cheaper on the other side, I promise.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It’s cheaper on the other side, I promise.

Is it? Because if you add up all the streaming services out there, it's a lot more expensive than cable. And, unlike cable, if you don't pay for them all, you don't get to watch their content. That used to be just for a handful of premium channels on cable. Now you miss thousands of hours of content with tons of new content every month because you refuse to pay that streaming service's $15 a month fee.

[–] bobzilla@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The cheaper side is a VPN and a pirate's life for me.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Ah, well then shiver me timbers, I be havin' no quarrel with ye!

[–] comador@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Granted, my comment is subjective to what you watch and how often you watch things, but here's how this cheap ass tight wad did it:

I was spending $117/mo on DirectTV. My family wanted Disney, some movie choices and I wanted Discovery and News. When I cancelled DirectTV I bought:

  • RCA OTA outdoor antenna $50
  • Roku Ultimate $90

The ota antenna took the place of my dish, so it fit perfectly and gave me all local channels plus local news.

The roku opened up for us to get Disney+ and SlingTV Orange, costing $48/mo. while saving half the cost on our normal monthly Directtv.

Now, we also subscribe off and on to other subscriptions, binge watch crap and cancel, but I will admit I do pirate stuff from time to time too using a gen1 hacked fire stick.

For most people and even without pirating, doing this is enough to get your TV fix, thus the comment. Still, I'm sure there's people out there that want those 100 channels and there's just no resolve for that situation without spending a lot more.

[–] Pandemanium@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How many hours of content are you watching every day? You don't need all of them. And it isn't some two year contract like cable is. You can cancel or resubscribe anytime. It would be more like if cable allowed you to split your bill into batches of channels and you could choose which ones you wanted to pay for every month.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Me alone? Not as much as my family as a whole.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, it’s much cheaper. Maybe not if you tried to replicate the package but why would you? Most people don’t watch everything. More importantly, streaming frees you from their schedule and opens the possibility of binge watching entire seasons.

For me:

  • FROM triple play including 300Mb internet, most channels but no premiums
  • TO gigabit Ethernet, 2-3 streaming services at a time
  • SAVED half every month
[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

Companies shouldn't be able to place their customers in the middle of their negotiations like this.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] 2pt_perversion@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There was this company Aereo that offered the ability to rent individual antennas in your local market and stream that over the Internet and the supreme court killed that too.

And they ruled Aereo was a cable company on the one hand so it was violating the law by not paying carriage fees...And then later when Aereo sought a compulsory license because it was a "cable company" according to the supreme court - they ruled against Aereo because it's not a cable company.

It's pretty obvious the public service part of OTA comes in second behind profit.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

DirecTV is actually refusing to air one of the two local stations here due to some dispute. I can't believe that's allowable. I thought they were required to offer all local channels. They used to be.