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[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

While I get that people try to hurt Tesla's sales, please don't set random people's property on fire. You might destroy the live of someone who bought a car before Edolf Musk rose to power and displayed the extent of his insanity.

Couldn't care less for Tesla's fresh out the factory tho

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm half joking here, but are we really sure the source of the fire was external?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Teslas aren't prone to spontaneous combustion

(For the half that wasn't joke)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There are a lot of Teslas that caught fire while driving or even parked.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Searching I found one Tesla 3 that caught fire after hitting road debris, several that caught fire after being shot at, several that caught fire after a collision, and many destroyed in arson attacks

Please link some of these "many that caught fire while driving"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago

That's true. In an unrelated note there's a tesla gigafactory near Berlin. Also, there's a brand new train track to it. Also unrelated, I heard fires are really bad for train tracks.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

Most car insurance covers fire, so i hope the owners can collect and buy a different car.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I recently saw a Tesla here with a sticker on its back reading:
"I bought this before Elon went crazy"

Those will probably get wildly popular to secure their cars

And I'm all with you, that destroying people's property is just a shit move...

Edit: and forgot to add:
There are still quite some anti-EV people around, that just seem to hate on EVs in general
If such a fucker destroys my Renault EV, I'd be more than just pissed

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

national "buy comprehensive" day would be a pretty strong signal to send

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Sorry, English isn't my first language, so I'm not sure what you mean with "buy comprehensive"

It's a bit hard to describe for me, how I understand it, without just translating it directly ;⁠-⁠)
(Would be "umfassend" if that helps)

So, I understood it like extensive, exhaustive

But I'm not sure how that would translate to my shopping.
Would I just buy everything I need all at once?
But what signal would that send?

I guess, I just don't understand it correctly.

Thanks for helping me out here, I'm a bit stuck here...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They are referring to the insurance policy covering the vehicle. Comprehensive insurance covers vandalism and fire.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Ah, comprehensive insurance!
Ok, thanks!

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I'm not excusing burning down innocent people's property, but Teslas are not cheap.

I doubt anyone who'd lose one would have their life destroyed.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

So what are we saying? Destruction of people's property is cool if it passes some arbitrary threshold that seems like they must be "well off" to own that property?

Does that also mean it's cool to rob anyone who owns a macbook, on the assumption they'd have a cheaper laptop if they weren't loaded?

Where I live, the taxi drivers primarily are driving Teslas and other electric cars because they do crazy mileage for their job and so over time the Tesla is actually the most economical choice for them. And that's just a regular working class job.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

I'm saying it's cool if the property belongs to a Nazi or a Nazi sympathizer.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I’m not excusing burning down innocent people’s property

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well you said those words, but then followed on by saying what seems to be an excuse for exactly that - effectively they are rich so they can afford it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

The original commenter said that burning down Teslas might destroy the owners life. This is a car that costs somewhere between 40000 (?) and 150000 dollars. Someone who can afford that is highly likely to recover. That's what this commenter pointed out.

Stating that isn't saying that it's cool to burn down a random person's car.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

People regularly buy vehicles significantly above their means for whatever reason.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Many people save up for such a major expense, like a car
So they save up for years, because they really would like to have that one specific car and then some idiot comes around and destroys it, because he doesn't like the owner of the manufacturer

And many people bought it while Tesla was pretty much the only decent EV

and even if the driver could buy the car without selling his kidney, it doesn't mean, that he has a bunch of cars in his home

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If they want to hurt Tesla, attacking their customers' cars won't help

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

But it will prevent new customers!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

but it contains potassium benzoate

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

So it will help?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Don't these climate pigs know how shitty it is for the environment when an electric car burns? They must have been right-wing radicals!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Whatever you may think of Tesla or Muskrat, vandalising a persons vehicle is a pathetic move.
Exactly the opposite of Luigi, not even a Tesla dealership but gravely punishing the lowest in the food chain. Not to mention the environmental harm it causes.
Whoever does this is a coward.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Germany has the right idea about Nazis. Never again

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yeah, sure. Judt don't look at the last election results.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Fight Nazis by random arson against random citizens property

Sure they're on the right side /s

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Are you purposely malicious or just stupid? AfD, extreme violence against protesters supporting Gaza, currently being tried in the ICC alongside Israel and britian. Germany and clearly most of western Europe and America ike Nazis and have for a long time because the they were the inspiration for the Nazis

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Just pay your deductible and you get those ~~dmarks~~ fat Euros without the hassle of trying to sell a car nobody wants! Genius!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You are aware they're using the euro?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Duhr, maybe if I thought about it yea. Lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is so stupid, burn other people cars because of some stupid Millionaire. People are just dumb

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If you have a car that valuable without comprehensive insurance, you were going to learn a hard lesson one way or the other imo. Something as simply as a bad rain storm can really expensive damage. Also, from an impartial perspective, used cars that attract crime seriously harm sales of other used and even new examples; Hyundai/Kia is an excellent example of this. Tesla has already lost virtually all of its reputation yes, but knowing it might be burned to the ground at any second will have even Elon supporters second guessing a purchase.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So it's fine to destroy insured private property? It's not like that's zero cost for the owner of the car

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago

I never claimed it to be fine, to be clear, but again from a purely objective standpoint it seems like a pretty small cost to pay to contribute to the erosion of power a fascist, racist, hateful, and truly dangerous borderline hegemon wields. Perhaps I'm limited in perspective, but at first glance I see 2 main outcomes assuming you're siding with the vandals: -The Tesla owner disagrees with Elon and was able to claim insurance on the car they'd likely otherwise take a bath on if they tried to sell (especially in Germany) and presumably wanted to get rid of: win-win. -The Tesla owner agrees with Elon and is an enemy of the vandal, which I'm sure they'd consider a win-win (damaging the market image of Tesla, harming an enemy)

To clarify once more, I am not saying I agree with or support the efforts of arsonists targeting regular people, but it seems like there's asymmetric cost on the side of Tesla assuming properly insured/financially positioned owners so what they're doing makes sense overall, and is likely effective. Let's be real, Teslas are positioned as luxury vehicles; these aren't people scraping buy that are being harmed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

On several occasions there was no need of setting them on fire, happening by itself. Lithium is a metal that is very reactive, it is sufficient oveloading, or puncture a battery to cause an explosion.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/8nz5ijXcckI

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

I'm waiting for the same happening to the other famous nazi carmakers, like Ford or Volkswagen.