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[–] joelfromaus@aussie.zone 52 points 9 months ago (6 children)

If another service such as Matrix can built similar screen sharing into their applications then I’d be able to convince my friends to make the shift. As it stands there isn’t really a 1:1 equivalent.

[–] kusivittula@sopuli.xyz 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

screen sharing in element is very good. just use element call under video call

[–] valveman@lemmy.eco.br 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I tested this today with a friend, and apparently it doesn't need to be a video call, just a regular voice call is enough to do screen share.

I didn't test with a group call though, so I can't tell if it only works with two people.

[–] kusivittula@sopuli.xyz 6 points 9 months ago

in regular call the screen sharing has a horrible framerate, but in element call it's smooth and high quality

[–] Fermion@feddit.nl 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Screen sharing in signal seems to work reasonably well.

[–] fracture@beehaw.org 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

it... works but it doesn't work nearly as well as discord for gaming screen sharing, at least with the bit of testing i've done with mh wilds

[–] Fermion@feddit.nl 5 points 9 months ago

I only used it for desktop applications. That's good to know.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Bananas Screen Sharing may one day be able to replicate that functionality, though at the moment it does not pass-through application audio (The dev mentioned they hadn't implementet that because it's difficult to do on Mac OS, but seems to be viable for Windows/Linux), but it does pass through the microphone.

[–] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 10 points 9 months ago

Jitsi + mumble combo, perhaps?

[–] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I expect MatrixRTC will be capable of screen sharing if it isn't already, so this is probably just a matter of time, so long as Matrix gets the sponsors they need to continue their work.

[–] SippyCup@feddit.nl 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I would like to contribute labor to developing a discord alternative.

I also don't know shit about fuck. Is this not something that can be made open source?

[–] u_tamtam@programming.dev 3 points 9 months ago

You don't have to reinvent the wheel, open standards with similar or better capabilities already exist. Don't create another silo, contribute to making e.g. XMPP clients better.

[–] dan@upvote.au 32 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This isn't surprising at all. Centralized services are expensive to run at a large scale.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 31 points 9 months ago

It was bound to happen sooner or later. Oh well.

[–] Midnitte@beehaw.org 27 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Time to move on to Revolt and / or Matrix/Element...

[–] u_tamtam@programming.dev 4 points 9 months ago

Matrix has gone open core, XMPP is safer

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Can someone give me a TLDR?

[–] dicksteele@lemm.ee 42 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Developers want to cash out. Company going public. Will most likely have to do some things to keep investors happy, involving what is now known as enshittification.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 9 months ago

Thank you! I wasnt sure if i understood it correctly

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The ads are so far sufficiently unobtrusive to still use the platform, and I've no need of Nitro, but should that change, I'll flee elsewhere.

Discord just last week shut down a server that was my main local friend group, and we had to scramble to reconstitute it. At this point, we're not even looking to advertise it. It's a low-volume server with only six left-of-Overton from the core group, but it taught us that you always want more than one method of contact, as a a rugpull can happen at any time off any whim.

[–] u_tamtam@programming.dev 6 points 9 months ago

but it taught us that you always want more than one method of contact, as a a rugpull can happen at any time off any whim.

Being on the internet long enough taught me instead (by having seen countless providers rise and fall since the early 00's) to self-host my comms and prefer open federated protocols. I switched to XMPP, I have no regret, everyone that matters made the move painlessly a decade ago or so.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Discord just last week shut down a server that was my main local friend group, and we had to scramble to reconstitute it."

Damn, that sucks. How big was the server? Do you know why it was shut down?

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Well, that remains a question. He didn't start the server, but it was shut down precisely two years after it was created. And the woman who started it maintains an active Discord account, so it's not on account of that. He messaged me at 3 a.m. from Europe asking for a link to get back in, at which point we both realised the server was just gone.

It was the six of us who've all hung out plus occasional random folks who believe the economy works for them. They didn't last long.

[–] darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

But pretty much all of these organizations have their own Discord servers, don't they?

So why would it matter so much what the parent company does? If some changes are seen as unacceptable one could simply just not apply them to one'a own server. (It's not like the Discord company could force anyone to run some particular software on their server. How would that even work.)

I don't understand why people care what Discord does. If they do enough unwelcome changes the people who run their own servers will simply detach from the parent company.

[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 60 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can't host your own Discord server

[–] darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

What do you mean by that? Tons of organizations, groups and people publish that they have their own Discord servers.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 36 points 9 months ago

What is called a "Discord Server" isn't a server as we know it, it is more of a hub of services that all runs on Discord's systems.

[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They are not hosting it themselves. All infrastructure is fully controlled by Discord and they are subject to all Discord rules and decisions.

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Having a Discord server" doesn't mean what those words normally mean.

[–] darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What's that supposed to mean?

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 34 points 9 months ago

It's more like claiming to own a subreddit, or a Twitter hashtag.

[–] Megaman_EXE@beehaw.org 4 points 9 months ago

Mannnn what a pain.

[–] melp@beehaw.org 2 points 9 months ago

Lets just all go back to BitchX, ok?

[–] Sinfaen@beehaw.org 2 points 9 months ago

Great. I've been using matrix just for myself, but our local dance group went to discord because FB was being such a pain to deal with

[–] pineapplepizza@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

I have been preparing for it to get better.