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It's Musk’s drug of choice

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

Wait, you mean persistent drug abuse can lead to a state of psychosis where people act impulsively, have delusions of grandeur, and have no regard for how their actions impact others?

Surely there aren't any other historical figures we can compare this to.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Last year, Musk told CNN’s Don Lemon that he has a ketamine prescription and uses the drug roughly every other week to help with depression symptoms. When Lemon asked if Musk ever abused ketamine, Musk replied, “I don’t think so. If you use too much ketamine you can’t really get work done,” then said that investors in his companies should want him to keep up his drug regimen.

I'm not completely sure what the criteria is for "abusing" ketamine, but since Musk seems to know what happens when you use too much ketamine, it seems to me like he's probably abused it at some point.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Even if someone wants to be completely charitable, and I'm not inclined to do so, there exists a possibility that his dose is too high. How would he know? It could, therefore, produce the same effects as overuse/abuse.

It's a little far-fetched to be that charitable, however, and I think it's more likely he just abuses and tries to hide it. He has billions of dollars and exists in a separate tier of law. Getting a supply of ketamine is probably trivially easy.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Musk got his dealer a government job in DOGE:

At least 10 DOGE staffers identified by The Post are engineers. Among them is Alexandra Beynon, 36, according to Education Department records seen by The Post and an official with knowledge of the matter. Beynon previously was head of engineering at Mindbloom, a company started by her husband, Dylan Beynon, that “offers guided at-home ketamine therapy to transform your mental health.”

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Meritocracy through and through

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Ketamine micro has legitimate benefits, but yeah that's likely the supply.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

He has hundreds of billions of dollars. He bought our fucking government for like 1% of his wealth.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Thinking investors would want him to keep using is addict justification logic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

but since Musk seems to know what happens when you use too much ketamine, it seems to me like he's probably abused it at some point.

I don't agree with that argument, even though I would also bet Musk has done higher doses before. But it doesn't require you to try it out to know that you aren't a productive "worker" when you are in a k-hole...

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

He is a danger to us all, man with that much money and completely insane by drug abuse. What if he decides nuclear war would be fun to watch? He is already in control of a country with most nukes in the world so it wouldnt be that hard to arrange. Wouldnt surprise me if he thought he could also stop it if he wanted or control everything about it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My problem with Hollywood's depictions of Nazis is that they far too often show them as competent and efficient. They handed out advancements based on the shape of faces...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Turns out a lot of people are competent if given a chance. I'd argue that means we should give different kinds of people that chance.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

It's like there's a reason for diversity, and perhaps equity too. Hell, let's include people to have their voices heard.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Modern media spin would say Hitler's just really pumped to see his country compete in the Olympics. He can barely contain his masculine vigor, like any true patriot. 🇺🇲🏈🥇

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Remember kids: every time Elon does a hit of ketamine, a horse goes into surgery completely alert.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

And that horse is then given to an air hostess that was sexually assaulted by Musk.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Animal cruelty!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Hitler was meth'd up.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

I think being the richest man in the world probably has more to do with it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

John Lilly, a neurophysiologist and psychedelic researcher who once used LSD to investigate dolphin communication, famously abused ketamine until he believed that he was contacted by an extraterrestrial entity who removed his penis.

I see, that's where dandadan got its plot ideas from

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This statement from the article is a bit misleading. Lilly had this hallucination during a ketamine trip after injecting 150mg. The article makes it sound like a persistent delusion arising from daily use. Lilly abused ketamine for sure, but he didn't lose his mind. He was a guy who seemed to have strange ideas his whole life. https://www.intuition.org/txt/lilly.htm

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Adding to this because I feel a bit annoyed at how John C Lilly gets so badly represented sometimes. He wasn't a nut job. He was a weird guy with a very unique personality. He had an intense passion for knowledge and scientific inquiry. He also had a massive ego. But he was a reasonably self reflective person. Read his books and watch interviews with him. He wasn't just a hedonist who got addicted to K. He always had a very non typical experience of reality. He had hallucinations of angels as a child, partly due to a heavily religious upbringing. It's totally understandable that he was primed for strange trips when he got into psychedelics. But he was able to function as a professional. He had multiple government funded research projects during his career, medical credentials, and owned electrical engineering patents. His characterisation as a kook is very similar to the crap that people say about Tim Leary, who had a successful academic career before being kicked out of Harvard and was actually a very rational person.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ketamine: from saving lives in surgeries to inflating egos in boardrooms—what a career pivot. Informative and well-researched yet slightly alarmist.

🐱🐱🐱🐱

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

It makes you stupid. I never felt on top of the world but it may have led to some strange behavior idk but nothing crazy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

What are the long term effects of having a child with a father who’s a nazi and a ketamine addict? Asking for a South African…

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Hard dissociatives can make you lose your grasp on reality?

REEEEAAALLLY?

Wow, I'm absolutely stunned at this new information.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (5 children)

In 2018, for example, he took multiple tabs of acid at a party he hosted in Los Angeles. The next year he partied on magic mushrooms at an event in Mexico. In 2021, he took ketamine recreationally with his brother, Kimbal Musk, in Miami at a house party during Art Basel. He has taken illegal drugs with current SpaceX and former Tesla board member Steve Jurvetson.

People close to Musk, who is now 52, said his drug use is ongoing, especially his consumption of ketamine, and that they are concerned it could cause a health crisis. Even if it doesn’t, it could damage his businesses.

WSJ report archived

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So when will the courts treat him as they would a black man with the same substance abuse problems

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

and that they are concerned it could cause a health crisis.

The word is hoping. Concerned means you fear that it might happen. Stupid people close to Musk, don't even know English.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

Ketamine does not have this effect at all. It doesn't even directly work on the receptors that would invoke such behavior. Half of the stuff in the article is cherry picked to suit a narrative. It doesn't even include the effect of thinking one can rule the world outside of the clickbait title. And LMAO at pointing out the ketamine delusions of a nutjob who previously tried to use LSD to communicate with dolphins, that was a new one.

(Source: I have been a ketamine user for 15 years with no problems, and I hosted government approved drug education for a while)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Lilly wasn't a nut job. His dolphin experiments ultimately failed, but it takes courage to try radical scientific experiments. Consider the common attitude towards science in academia these days where so many people fudge their results because they're afraid of being considered failures. Failure is a part of science because you can learn from it. One of the cool things about Lilly's experiments is that he didn't feel the need to commercialise his experiments. They were mostly based on pure scientific inquiry.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I'm on 80mg troches currently for symptom management. What dosage do you use?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Perhaps farming some fresh, organic produce would help him.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Is this a reference to making drug addicts work the farms after deporting all of the immigrant farm workers?

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