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Plant-Based Meat Alternatives Healthier And Better For The Planet, Report Finds (plantbasednews.org)

submitted 2 years ago by Beaver@lemmy.ca to c/news@lemmy.world

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 73 points 2 years ago (31 children)

I am once again asking for meat and dairy subsidies in the US to be shifted to alternatives like plant-based products and lab meat.

One of the biggest barriers to alternatives is the cost. Currently they cost like twice as much as the "normal" product. If they cost a roughly equal amount, more people would start buying them instead. The US has huge agriculture subsidies; we could shift them to alternatives to encourage a change in production and a change in retail purchasing.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Yeah, meat is so heavily subsidized. And I’ll acknowledge that this is one of those problems that you can’t really solve unless you’re willing to yank your political career and your party. People don’t want to quit meat like they don’t want gas to be expensive enough to account for the damage done by using it

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[–] Wootz@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

For all those replying with "well yes, we already knew this".

Yes, but now you have the numbers to back up the conclusions you've already drawn.

Of course food produced from plants will be environmentally better than those made from animals, but now, next time you see someone actually doubting that, you can rebuff them with numbers and science.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 years ago

But those numbers already existed. Those conclusions weren't drawn up out of nothing.

If 70% of the food we cultivate goes directly to our livestock, then we could only ever eat 30% of it ourselves. Meaning, for something that takes up 1/3 of our plate, we use almost 5 times as much resourses just to feed it as either of the other 2/3.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 33 points 2 years ago (6 children)

The most healthy plant based meat alternatives have always been, Beans & Legumes. You're welcome!

[–] Kayday@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

I'm not vegan, but I've been trying to limit my groceries to have 1 meat based dinner each week. I have really enjoyed using chickpeas as my protein for lots of different things. My favorite right now is a chickpea shawarma.

[–] addictedtochaos@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

nooooooo we want them to buy the OTHER kind of plant based meat alternatives, the lucrative ones.

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lentils and nuts/seeds?

[–] addictedtochaos@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

that profit margin is puny, we want some form of processed alternative, so we can make lots of money.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (7 children)

And they’re easy! Like I enjoy fake meat as a treat, but as my wife can’t eat soy my primary meat replacement is black beans. Sometimes butter beans. It’s great, it’s easy, and I feel good.

That said the real best is lentils. Nothing is healthy like lentils are. They’re just difficult to cook right

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[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Now make them affordable. Plant based meats cost easily double the price of meat. So I don't blame people for choosing meat.

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[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Next up, the sky is blue.

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I wish it was more obvious to the average person as it is needed to counter the mainstream media’s false narrative that “processed plant-based protein alternatives are less healthy than meat”

[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not that I doubt you, but where are you seeing them talk about it AT ALL?

I'm maybe just looking in the wrong places but beyond the occasional adverpinion piece, it's not even brought up.

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 years ago

It's a common talking point amongst those who have a murderous hatred of vegans.

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[–] Mac@mander.xyz 10 points 2 years ago

You say that but there arent campaigns to disinform people that the sky is actually red.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Next you’re going to say that it’s good that my primary source of protein is high in fiber and fixes nitrogen in the soil. No shit. Over processed food is bad, but meat is really bad for the planet and while it may be healthy in small amounts it’s probably less than every day, much less every meal like is common in the developed world.

[–] ReginaPhalange@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Water - wet.

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[–] Veraxus@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Awesome. Now it just needs to be more affordable while tasting just as good. Right now, the stuff that actually tastes like meat is priced like a bougie, elitist luxury good.

[–] addictedtochaos@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

the price is exactly what this is all about.

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[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

But you don't get to torment animals

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wish they weren't all so damn salty though. I get that meat is salty, but the meat alternatives go way too far with the saltiness in general in my experience.

[–] i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 years ago

So much this. Last time I brought it up, I was asked "what's the matter, you don't season your food?"

Uh... There are more seasonings than SALT, yo. You can add more of it, but once it's in there...

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Pork also scored red for salt, while beef and chicken scored amber. Lamb was the only meat to receive a green rating for salt.

What? Raw meat has a negligible amount of salt. How is it not all green?

[–] ijon_the_human@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Didn't read the article but raw packaged meats are often (depending on local regulation) injected with sodium solutions.

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