Does this mean if you talk to an Amerian it a coin toss whether they are a Nazi or not? Jesus wtf is this timeline
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Pretty much. I've never been more disappointed in my fellow Americans than over the last few months.
Both the apathy, and the actual Nazis running around.
Most of the folk I know of that are out of the loop think I'm exaggerating.
2/3rds of Americans don't even have a single clue what is going on. Otherwise they would have voted instead of staying home.
Fuck off with these consent-manufacturing poll-fraudsters trying to attribute the decline to "the economy" and not "turning the US into a goddamned dictatorship."
On the one hand yes, I agree that's the worst part, on the other hand polling is an actual data science. Legit polling organizations don't just pull shit out of nowhere. If they say "due to the economy" they mean there is a correlation between people with a negative attitude towards Trump and people who say their biggest concern is the economy. And this makes sense because let's be honest, most Democrats already dislike him for other reasons, so the people who are just NOW changing their opinion on him are likely to be for money reasons since that's the current thing going on.
I did some digging to try to figure out the poll methodology, because I was planning to claim something to the effect of "but if the poll doesn't have a category for democratic backsliding, then it will be skewed to attribute the opinions to other causes instead."
That's what I would have written, except I found the actual poll results and it turns out it does have such a category. That's the good news for Reuters' credibility re: their headline.
The bad news is that "economy, unemployment and jobs" only barely edges out "political extremism or threats to democracy" among all Americans by a single measly percentage point (i.e. within the poll margin of error -- a statistical tie), and even then only because Republicans unsurprisingly don't care about the latter. Meanwhile, political extremism is the bigger factor among both Democrats and independents (i.e. everybody else).
By implying that the entire reason for the approval rating change is the economy and failing to mention political extremism at all, this Reuters article is blatant spin and erasure of that factor. The Reuters/Ipsos polling people might be "legit," but the reporting of it is absolutely normalizing and manufacturing consent for Trump's nascent dictatorship.
Without knowing more about their usual procedures regarding what they state is the "biggest" issue reported by those they've polled and whether they are writing the article how they normally would I cannot agree whether they are intentionally trying to normalize anything, so we'll have to agree to disagree.
Oh it's the economy is it? That's the biggest problem with Trump?
It's not about him undermining democracy from day 1?
Or the fact that he is internationally despised for his incompetence and acting like an elephant in a China store.
There were lots of warnings that Trumps policies would hurt the economy. If you voted for Trump, you got exactly what you voted for!!!
slightly lower
This here says it all. Trump breaks law after law, fucks up after and during fucking up insanely, breaks the government, gives the keys to the government to an unelected incompetent serial lying asshole who only cares about himself and...
Crickets
WHAT THE FUCK IS WTONG WITH YOU, YOU STUPID AMERICANS?
What is it going to take? Trump accidentally nimong nlNew York completely? Nah, Cheeto will claim it was a DEI camp or something and people will applaud it. Have an epidemic break out that kills 80% of the population? Seriously, what is needed for people to stop wanting Cheeto, what the fuck Is wrong with all of you?
The Americans that already like trump only listen to/watch media that will NEVER tell them what he's doing is illegal. That media only reinforces their own views that brown people are bad, and anything to hurt them will help the white Americans - even if all this illegal stuff hurts the white Americans, too.
Exactly.
The reason Trump exists is because the powers that put him in office have managed to cultivate an alternate media reality and exploit people's tribalism and biases.
If you listen to any media from that bubble you'd hear that Trump is doing amazing and that any negativity that may make it through the filter bubble is because "they" are "just mad" and "trying to get" him.
They're not even living in the same reality
So you agree a large swath of americans are just too fucking stupid to harbour any common sense
Sadly yes, and it could happen to you. Murdoch’s power knows no borders, and now that he’s destroyed one country he’ll try for more.
I agree and I am terrified of it... however, like it's the case with biases, eternlal vigilance is the cost of keeping it at bay
The Americans that already like trump only listen to/watch media that will NEVER tell them what he's doing is illegal.
And, apparently, they're too stupid to figure it out on their own.
The economy is what’s making them disapprove? The economy?
For many people, it's about the only time that "politics" enters their consciousness.
51% disapprove and 44% of approve. It is kinda crazy that we only have 5% left who still just aren't concerned one way or another.
Give it another month and his approval rating will be 30% or less.
Trump wants to surpass Nixon
I'm sorry, a week ago I was told by CBS and the poster of the article that 53% approved of Trump and called him Energetic and tough. The poster said that we can't deny that the majority of people approve of all that Trump is doing. Now we see that actually his approval is much lower just like I was saying a week ago? That almost all of the approval rating polls show his approval as somewhere in the mid 40s which is significantly less than that CBS poll?
Huh. Maybe CBS was just trying to avoid the 20 Billion dollar lawsuit.
I think that's a $20 Billion lawsuit, not million.
Thanks for pointing that out! Fixed it.
I find it pretty worrying that he has an approval rating that can still drop. I would have thought he would have reached 0 by now. The fact that the approval is over 40% is just mind boggling.
Check out the approval ratings of Nixon even as he announced his resignation.
As if the vast majority of Americans even understand a percent of what goes into any economy.
They just don’t understand the ways of our glorious leader. /s
Shame?