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New oven and they lock the air fryer functionality behind wifi. (lemmy.ca)
submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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CAFE by GE for those who are wondering.

We are renovating our house including all new appliances. I have told my partner to make sure we get non smart appliances. This is why.

Yes I can setup a VLAN for it to be on but that's not the point.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

they're using the Wi-fi radiation to cook your meals /s

Thats really, really dumb. I can understand maybe wanting the option of having your oven ping your phone when the timer goes off, but what could it possibly need internet access for in order to turn on the heating element and a fan for a set period of time??

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't need it. That's exactly the point.

Even though air frying doesn't need Internet, the manufacturer is restricting that feature as a way to force you to set up the WiFi, so they can then slurp up all your data.

They're literally holding the feature hostage, as motivation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Is data on when I turn the oven on, and how long I run it for, even worthwhile? Or do you think it's sniffing out other info from my network?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I've honestly come to the conclusion that some companies have management that actually believes its worth while to collect the most meaningless telemetry data, even after the ridiculous cost of bandwidth, database storage, hosting, etc. which all become more bonkers the larger the dataset. I've seen the cloud bills for actual useful data, I don't want think about how much they must be paying AWS/Azure/GCP to host such worthless data. There's no way its at all profitable to do so

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Is data on when I turn the oven on, and how long I run it for, even worthwhile?

They wouldn't be holding you hostage for it if it wasn't.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Nah. Corporations aren't all knowing godlike beings. They are run by stupid people who make mistakes, just like us.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

they’re using the Wi-fi radiation to cook your meals

You're thinking of microwaves.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The microwave region extends from 1,000 to 300,000 MHz (or 30 cm to 1 mm wavelength).

Source: https://www.britannica.com/science/electromagnetic-radiation/Microwaves

2.4Ghz, and 5Ghz are microwaves. Your typical microwave oven operates at about 2.45GHz due to resonance frequency of water. 2.4Ghz wifi is literally a typical microwave's neighbor.

The difference is sheer amount of power and shielding. Not the type of radiation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

It may very well be. However, with how matter-of-factly you said it, some people might not think it's a joke.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You didn't buy an oven. You bought a node for someone else's botnet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Whenever someone designs or purchases a smart device, this is what they need to be told. Is it really worth the risk for potential harm?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Hanlon's razor, but its interesting to imagine that some Russian, US, Israeli, Chinese, etc agents infiltrated management at appliance manufacturers and convinced them to make all their devices smart, just so they could build bigger botnets