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Alternatively, you don't want to get busted for destruction of federal property:
https://www.autozone.com/tire-repair-and-tire-wheel/tire-valve-stem-core-remover-tool
These can be found as cheap as maybe $1, and by just removing the cap, you can simply unscrew the valve stem and walk away, replacing the cap. It does no long term or meaningful damage to the vehicle (unless they drive on the flats), and you can easily attach it to a key chain so you always have one with you.
I mean. If you think you couldn't be successfully prosecuted for smudging the paint intentionally, that's pretty naive. If the current admin wants to make an example of people caught fucking with ICE vehicles, your advice here isn't gonna make a meaningful difference. But I agree that this is a clever way to accomplish the goal without actual damage.
Oh 100%. I'm not going with this method primarily because I don't think I'm going to get prosecuted. The plausible defense is just a co-benefit. These fuckers would probably trying and prosecute if you even look at their rig.
No the valve stem remover approach is superior for several reasons.
First, foremost, it affords an attack of opportunity. Just throw this fucker on your key-ring. You do not need to plan shit. You aren't carrying something that could in anyway be construed as anything other than what it is. Its about as damning as having a bottle opener on your key ring and some one accusing you of drink driving because of it. You never know when inspiration and opportunity are going to take to the dance floor. Fortune favors the prepared mind.
Second, and almost as important as the first. Its subtle. I don't even need to take the whole core out. I can just loosen it a bit so it creates and almost inaudible leak. So what if it takes 10-20 minutes to fully deflate? Even better. I'm long, long gone by the time that its even noticeable. There is another below about using a knife or slashing a tire wall. Which is like, fine, but thats gonna be loud, its gonna be immediate, and its gonna be obvious. You aren't going to get two of that job done. And the valve stem puller? I can do it again. And again and again.
Always choose the right tools for your project.
I like the thought process but I still feel like those motherfuckers would get you for destruction of federal property if you got caught doing this.
Yeah and a not insignificant chance of them shooting you.
Alternatively, if you don't care about committing crime, slash the side walls instead. This is not repairable and much more expensive to replace a tire than a valve stem.
As an EV driver I was very confused at first. I know they arent great for the environment but that seemed extreme.
Then I realized what you meant.
I thought it meant internal combustion engine too lol
...what else could it mean?
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. The post is in response to Trump's mass deportation efforts.
Ohhh, thanks. I'm in the EU so I don't keep entirely up to date with the crap abroad, gotta think of my mental health lol
Or you could put a small stone in the valve stem cap and twist it on just enough to slowly leak.
Takes a bit longer but it’s going to hit a while from now, maybe while they’re driving.
Read that on the internet, did you?
I believe I am, for all intents and purposes, the actual originator of that trick (in terms of publishing it on the internet, anyway). You have no idea how much it warms the cockles of my twisted little black heart to see that someone else posted this before I was able to.
Does it actually work, or is it one of the hundreds of internet tricks that keep getting reposted because they sound like they would?
It does, if performed correctly. You can tell by giving the stem a listen. The escaping air will be quite audible.
So our independent lab testing on our own private vehicles in controlled conditions reports, anyway. My lawyers told me to add that last part.
Superglue the stone into the cap. That way it'll keep deflating the tire until the cap is replaced.
Buy a pack of valve caps. Super glue stones in them and carry them around. When you see ICE vehicles, replace their valve cap for yours. Repeat as necessary.
Definitely don't do that. Rapidly letting all of the air out is VERY VERY LOUD. Instead, "do not" have a valve stem tool in your pocket and DEFINITELY do not barely loosen the stem core so that it leaks out slower but much more quietly, allowing you to be long gone when they "go flat".
I never knew someone who didn’t unscrew the the valve cap and avoided placing a small pebble or BB inside the cap before they didn’t screw the cap back on and then didn’t inadvertently introduce a slow leak which did not cause the tire to not become flat over a period of time.
Anyway don’t do this to old, low-end cars. If that person’s driving a 15 year old Corolla then they probably can’t afford a brand new Tesla. As much as we’d like everyone to drive an EV, single moms tend to prioritize feeding their kids.
I think the caption refers to Immigration and Customs Enforcement, not Internal Combustion Engine.
Ohhhhh that makes so much sense now! Here I was thinking this was some radical pro-EV group going out there making it happen!
That was a remarkably calm comment considering the read intention is creating thousands of unsafe vehicles on the road along with other drivers and pedestrians.
Yeah I was perplexed (hence feeling the need to comment) but lemmy never ceases to surprise me!
I agree with your sentiment
In this case though, they're referring to the federal ICE, not internal combustion engine.
As it is currently, electric cars are worse for the environment because we all decided electric cars are basically the iphones of automobiles.
They are riddled with planned obscelence and proprietary hardware. Theres not a chance in hell these would last longer than 10 years.
Meanwhile ICE vehicles can easily last decades if well cared for
I'm not shilling ICE vehicles, but stating the fact we NEED right to repair before we adopt electric vehicles on a large scale.
Remember that capitalism WANTS our belongings to break, and WANTS to infinitely produce, and WANTS us to infinitely consume.
This is property damage, you'll get a misdemeanor if they want to charge you. Owning a tire valve core tool, removing the cores, and placing them on the tire is only criminal mischief. Don't forget to put the valve stem cap back on for more fun!
Ya'll, ice enforcement vehicles have run-flat tires. This would work on a fleet car, but those aren't labeled, they're just cars.
Those are still only rated to go 50 miles once depressurized.
They also wouldn't even know their tires are flat until they start their car and get a tpms warning.
Imagining them giving chase with depressurized run-flat tires is laughable too.
Glue a bb in the valve cap. It’ll let the air out with no sign of tampering. And happen angain every time they top it up.
I was confused for a second because I read "ICE" as internal combustion engine. In my defense: I'm not American and "ICE" is commonly used that way in Formula 1
Damn, you really need a different acronym for that.
I seriously thought this was some extremist fuckcars shit.
What really worries me is if an AI were to go rogue and repeatedly fill in this form with plausible but false details.
https://www.ice.gov/webform/ice-tip-form
It'd waste hundreds of hours of brave ICE enforcer time, and clog up the internal system. Especially if it kept passing in duplicates, because the site specifically warms against that.
Never throw a sharp piece of ceramic at a car window it will shatter the windows.