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[–] [email protected] 106 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This is what happens when you fail to reign in scam calls in any way for a decade plus.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Believe it or not, this is a perfect time to leave a voice mail. The not answering spam calls I am normalized with, but the refusal to use voice mail for important calls is inexcusable.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

I would not listen to it. Just send a text

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't have a voicemail set up specifically because I don't want to dial in to check it. If you're a real person just text me to get my attention.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Dunno about other countries, but in Brazil you have to pay to listen to your voicemail

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There was a time where spam calls didn't exist? I am pretty sure 2 seconds after Alexander Bell tested the first pair of phones, someone tried to sell him an extended warranty for his car.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

"Mr. Watson, come here. I want to see about extending your horseless carriage's warranty". - Definitely the first ever phone call.

[–] [email protected] 94 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm totally with the hiker on this one, and this illustrates why spam calls are more than just a nuisance.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yep. I’m lost, 2% battery left, I aint answering a call from an unknown number. Imagining dying of thirst having wasted your last battery on a telemarketing call.

[–] [email protected] 91 points 2 months ago (13 children)

Why didn’t they text? Cultural norms aside, texts usually go through more easily than calls in spotty areas. But yeah, I’ll take hypothermia and exposure over answering an unknown number any day.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Modern search and rescue tools actually do send a text with a link to ping your exact location. The text is intended to be customized to the situation so they know it is legit.

Clark, your mother Martha is worried about you. You are not in trouble. Please contact Metropolis PD to let us know you are safe, or click this link to share your location so we can come get you.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

I know this trick, it's a virus

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Real talk the lack of caller id for all businesses or government lines is insane.

If you are not making a private call, on a private line, the I'd should be populated

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The bigger issue here is spam calls.

If that shit was stopped, people wouldn't ignore unknown callers.

While your solution is good it only solves part of the problem.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

No, if a company was calling me and I didn't want to talk to them, I'd still be better informed with caller id.

A spam call would be ignored because I wouldn't recognize the business name

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Many countries have this. It’s just just shitty American carriers that hold us back by gating anything and everything behind a fee.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Actually, in this case, it's partially the opposite.

The Madison River Telephone Company (later CenturyLink and now Lumen) started blocked calls and services from Vonage (VOIP) in 2005 because VOIP was a threat. The FCC stepped in and ruled against Madison River in what was really the beginning of Net Neutrality legislation.

Their ruling established that phone carriers couldn't discriminate against other services accessing their network and its features. Among those features is Caller ID. Since any. VOIP phone system doesn't actually originate from a telephone exchange, so they all essentially have to "spoof" their Caller ID.

The phone companies can't block CallerID spoofing from spamme4s and scammers without violating a 20yo ruling from the FCC.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

which is extremely outdated, with proper called ID these spoofed numbers should be presented as such on the caller ID

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

The issue is with cell phones and mobile networks. They don't all support passing CNAM (caller name delivery) between them. I worked in telecom for over 15 years, dealt with only businesses, I never met a company that didn't have CNAM set up.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn't expect rescuers to be calling me (assuming this is legit), so yeah, I probably wouldn't answer either

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Cmon, of course they would. They use every tool available and the phone is right there.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago

"every tool available" okay text me then

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Well then since they presumably got the missing person's number from someone that knows them and knows they were missing, maybe they should've called from that person's phone

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago

In this day and age, people should learn how to text. That guy almost had to have an awkward voice conversation. 😳

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Weird story. If they needed rescuing and had cell coverage why would they need to wait for an incoming call?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Iirc He wasn't lost. Somebody told the authorities, that the guy was missing and that he wanted to go on a hike. So they called him to see if he really was lost. He didn't answer the call, so they presumed he was injured or lost his phone. With this information they declared him lost and started a search.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Then this is perfectly normal. Why would I answer a phone number I don't recognize when I'm out enjoying solitude? I imagine it was on DND and he never even saw the call.

What a weird article.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

I looked up a full article.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/oct/26/hiker-lost-on-us-mountain-ignored-calls-from-rescuers-because-he-didnt-recognise-the-number

He did lose his trail, but wasn't at the point where he wanted to call for help. It looks like he wasn't aware that, if a lodge host at popular hiking spots asks about your plans for the day, it isn't just small talk.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

It was put out by "bigspam" to encourage you to answer their calls!!!

/s

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....Dear Trevon, we've been trying to reach you about your car insurance..

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I will pay extra and tip the rescuers if they txt me.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So a guy is lost and has phone service? Why didn’t he just call out for help? Never mind the whole issue of not answering unknown numbers. He had service and didn’t use his phone? This whole story is BS.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

90% of missing hikers get lost in serviced areas.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

I mean, did they leave a voicemail?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago
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