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Acts 4:34-36
"For there was not a needy person among them, for all who were owners of land or houses would sell them and bring the proceeds of the sales and lay them at the apostles’ feet, and they would be distributed to each as any had need."
They mean this Christianity, right???
“From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.” – sounds familiar 🤔
Oh yeah there’s a reason a chunk of early communists were Christian pacifists
... As a Christian, I approve.
The idea that the government should run off of some merciless view that the principles of free market capitalism dictate who eats and who doesn't is completely bizarre.
I have nothing against capitalist Christians who think that the principles of capitalism are generally fine and that, otherwise, we have an obligation as Christians to feed the poor and it just so happens to not be the role of government, but any explicitly Christian state has to feed the poor.
Huh, I wouldn't expect to see a Christian on Lemmy.
Eh, might be a bit of... inverse confirmation bias there. Don't assume we're not here just because we're not proclaiming it in every comment. 🙃 There are plenty of us I'm sure, we're just mostly the sane and rational type of Christians you rarely hear much about. Those of us really striving to live like Christ have to practice a certain meekness, selflessness, and compassion for others that makes us highly unlikely to participate in flame wars and the like. 😅🙂
...it also makes many of us lean pretty far left.
There are dozens of us!
In many historical societies including ancient Christian, Jewish, and Islamic societies, usury meant the charging of interest of any kind, and was considered wrong, or was made illegal.[3]
BTW chrishitery should be the next capitalist McCarthyism. Muhh! red hats!
- Deuteronomy 23:19-20 – “^19^ You shall not charge interest to your countrymen: interest on money, food, or anything that may be loaned at interest. ^20^ You may charge interest to a foreigner, but to your countrymen you shall not charge interest, so that the Lord your God may bless you in all that you undertake in the land which you are about to enter to possess.”
- Exodus 22:25 – “^25^ If you lend money to My people, to the poor among you, you are not to act as a creditor to him; you shall not charge him interest.”
- Deuteronomy 15:1-3 – “^1^ At the end of every seven years you shall grant a release of debts. ^2^ And this is the regulation for the release of debts: every creditor is to forgive what he has loaned to his neighbor; he shall not require it of his neighbor and his brother, because the Lord’s release has been proclaimed. ^3^ From a foreigner you may require it, but your hand shall forgive whatever of yours is with your brother.”
This sounds good in theory, but is relatively bad in practice. Without interest, no one will loan the government money. Municipalities would need to rely on huge tax increases to fund large projects, instead of bonds funded by small tax increases over time.
No one will loan money to businesses either, and you are not getting any money to buy a house. It would favor those who already own established businesses, as they can just use profits from one to invest in another one.
I don’t think anyone is saying this is sound economic theory, just that Christianity has a lot of kooky shit that modern Christians are ignorant of and are contradictory to the theocracy they envision.
"You don't actually read the bible, you just cherry picked some bits out of the atheist meme book" - actual response I've gotten when I've brought this up.
Funny, the whole thing is supposed to be applicable. They can't just ignore the parts that fit your terrible atheist agenda. And these points certainly aren't a matter of ignored context.
I've actually had other Christians argue against the message of love preached by Jesus, saying it's inapplicable here or there. Of course, I can't be a true Christian if I want equal rights for "the gays," healthcare for all, or any of the other various far left (for the US) views I hold.
Note: I'm a Christian who firmly supports the separation of church and state, sooooo...
It should be given freely, not because you were forced to. It doesnt mean anything if you were forced.
It's still meaningful because it is helping people, but it's probably not going to count in your favor spiritually. Unless you're supporting getting the system set up or keeping it in place I guess.
Exactly! Paying taxes doesnt make you a good christian, helping people voluntarily does.
Is the point of charity to feed the hungry or to let rich people feel good about themselves?
It doesn't matter to the hungry person if the food they eat was paid for by taxes or voluntary charity. Food is food.
Ultimately to help people, but if you're forced to, that doesnt mean anything. It just means you figured paying taxes was easier than going to jail