This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
All posts should follow this basic structure:
Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.
Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.
YTPB matrix channel: For real-time discussions about bastards or to appeal mod actions in YPTB itself.
Some acronyms you might see.
Relevant comms
(Note that the quoted bit I'm replying to ends after the word "...issue" and my words begin at "What a fucking...")
In roughly 30 years online, across a wide variety of communities on a wide variety of platforms, zero of them would have removed that comment as "trolling."
Except .ml, apparently.
Noooooo, you can't leave! You're my token, "I upvote people from ml sometimes" user!
I am of course kidding. Go wherever you feel comfortable, and keep being you.
Thanks buddy! I appreciate you!
One of us! One of us! --another former .ml user.
PTB for sure.
I think that this ban can be explained, under .ml admin team insane troll logic, like this: you're attacking Trump, thus you're defending Biden (there's even a "but" there! It invalidates everything that you said). Biden is helping the State of Israel to genocide the Palestinians so you're implicitly backing up the genocide "lol." so stop trolling "tnx."
And since you seem to be also communist, a few pointers on the instance landscape:
[Sorry for the uncalled advice, it's just stuff that I wish that I knew when I left .ml]
[Sorry for the uncalled advice, it’s just stuff that I wish that I knew when I left .ml]
All good and I appreciate it! Though to be clear I am not a communist, and don't see myself becoming one. I'm not sure what label to apply to myself these days.
All good and I appreciate it! Though to be clear I am not a communist, and don’t see myself becoming one. I’m not sure what label to apply to myself these days.
Ah, sorry then. It's just that some things that you said in the comment (plus in your other comments - got to check profile to say if PTB/YDI/BPR/CLM) lean this way. Nevermind the advice then, but I hope that it's useful for other lost commies like me.
It’s just that some things that you said in the comment (plus in your other comments - got to check profile to say if PTB/YDI/BPR/CLM) lean
Yeah, I find myself in a sort of uncanny valley politically/socially. I broadly agree with most folks who call themselves progressive or leftist (in a US context), but have a hard time slotting myself into one category. I think I'm too ignorant about the nuance of some of the different sorts of viewpoints to make the needed distinctions.
All good in any case!
'he rapes women up the ass so they cant get pregnant, see he cares! why cant people see that?! '
Critical support for Comrade Trump!
PTB
What a load of crap. Total PTB.
I used to down vote you quite a lot during the election, but have found myself doing the obverse much more of late. I don't always agree with you, but you absolutely aren't a troll and seem to operate with intelligence and good faith.
From another online weirdo of close to 40 years.
Thanks buddy, I appreciate it! Nothin wrong with some downvotes, that's just part of online discussion.
Literally part of the cooking process.
Good idea take learning and being challenged.
When discussions get censored, this process doesn't happen. This is by design, I am not sure why peasants are trying to do it to each other. It only benefits the ruling class.
Any idea for the instance?
I've had my eye on dbzero and slrpnk.net as I've been pondering this move over the past few months.
Ironically the biggest thing holding me back was not wanting to give in to all the trolls from .world about being from .ml.
But now, eh maybe it's just time.
Enjoy, they are both great !
I think it’s sad people don’t try to look past the instance handle, just another form of tribalism
Depends on the instance. Ml can be a historical account. LW a default account set on Sync.. People usually don't end up randomly on hexbear or lemmygrad
Yeah I think that’s a fair assessment.
I set up this account originally because I wanted to get a broad view of what was on the fediverse without having to make a bunch of accounts. A bunch of people warning me to block things is a surefire way to get me to immediately go check out what's going on.
For that use case Lemm.ee might even be better, less defederated
Like blaze said, both of those are great instances. I will say that I think dbzero's admin, db0 of course, is more active in the fediverse community, and I tend to find myself agreeing with most of their decisions and stances.
Also, recently db0 has been pushing forward with a lot of initiatives towards user/community feedback and governance, which is refreshing to see. To me, it means they are willing to allow others to hold them ethically accountable, and actively pushing for community mechanisms to allow for that.
Honestly, having voiced this... I need to stop procrastinating on a donation. I spend too much time using instance not to throw them a few dollars for upkeep. db0, keep doing what you're doing, this random guy appreciates it.
Thanks for sharing all that. 🙂
That was in response to me and I want you to know I didn’t report it because there’s nothing wrong with it except for the fact you’re wrong.
Trump has so far been better on Israel than biden. Biden is really that bad.
Respect!
So here we have two adults spit balling an issue then some lil bitch reported a comment in a chain they did not like to the boss man, who censored censored it
This is not a modding, this how censorship works and half of lemmy population see nothing wrong with it.
except for the fact you're wrong
Thanks, I needed that laugh.
Isn't this on you for remaining on lemmy.ml for so long? 😛 /s
There are so many other places to choose from - Lemm.ee if you want the fewest defederations, lemmy.dbzer0.com for anarchy, Sopuli if you want a "Liberal troll instance" (this btw I copied straight from their rotating text at the top as they are rightfully proud of such:-) - reddthat.com has downvotes disabled, and there are so very many themed including regional ones to minimize ping and uptime stats. Sort https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list by Monthly Active Users for a helpful listing.:-)
Thanks very much!
Since we pitching alternatives... There are mbin servers out there too. They can federate with Mastodon servers too but very basic set up.
The servers are so small, there is no mod drama.
Thank you!
Modding content and tone of speach is censorship
I disagree that moderating tone of speech is censorship. The target of censorship is the discourse = "content"; a censor doesn't want people to talking about certain ideas or facts. How those people express those ideas is orthogonal to the ideas themselves.
And moderating tone is often important because some tones are not conductive to discussion.
There should be room within instance rules to allow for respectful, good faith discussion.
You and whomever else are welcome to join WG if you want a smaller place to call home.
That's super nice, thank you! I was not aware of your instance until your comment, will check it out.
It's very small and there are only a few of us that actually use local accounts. I haven't really advertised it or anything since it seemed like there were plenty of better options.
Now that it's a little better established and things are going wild around Lemmy... Yeah. Probably a good time to start looking for like-minded people to get a friendly community going.
Are you registered on https://lemmy-federate.com/ ?
Yeah. I jumped through all the common hoops (AFAIK) when I was first setting up the instance because I was undecided on what to do with it.
In the beginning I wasn't sure if I wanted to deal with the hassle of users and instead just host communities and use it as a personal instance. Since then I've decided I'm ok with others joining as long as the numbers stay manageable, say 100-200 local users max, should it ever get to that point.
That way it should be large enough to foster local friendships and groups but not so large that we have users running unchecked through the fediverse causing problems. At least that's the vision/goal.
