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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 87 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So they’re admitting that Trump, a private citizen, interfered with US foreign policy, which is yet another crime.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 48 points 11 months ago

Just like when Nixon sabotaged the Paris peace talks, or when Reagan betrayed the American hostages in Iran.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 79 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Does it count as ending the genocide if he helps Israel kill all the remaining Palestinians so there are none left to genocide? 🤔

[–] kurcatovium@lemm.ee 31 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Well, it ended, didn't it?

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This fits the bill with the actual bad faith arguments that tankies make constantly.

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[–] HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world 68 points 11 months ago (11 children)

I would like to remind people this conflict is decades and decades old, it's not a democrat thing, or republican thing. America has supported this genocide for over 50 years. The democrats and republicans of now will surely, if unfortunately, continue.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

While true, I'm over 50 and have never seen such mechanized destruction in my lifetime. And yes, now I'm woke to the fact that my country has supported this shit the whole time.

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[–] protist@mander.xyz 67 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

People need to remember Netanyahu wants Trump in power, so is going to make decisions that are good optics for Trump when he can. He similarly made decisions that are bad optics for Biden on purpose. While Biden did himself no favors, never forget Netanyahu is the one who put him in that position.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's so odd that the time line for this surge of fighting happened right through the election cycle. You know, it's almost like if you were to coordinate political strategies with your allies you could find advantageous opportunities that serve each other to the disadvantage of your opponents. Except, that could never happen, right? Right? As if what appeared to be genocide was just sloppy blitzkrieg trying to cause as much damage as possible in a limited time frame.

Ok, I'll shut up now, I wouldn't want people to think those with unlimited resources are capable of high level strategic warfare.

[–] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] gramie@lemmy.ca 27 points 11 months ago

Henry Kissinger did something similar to delay the end of the Vietnam war, in order to get Nixon elected.

[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 37 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

...are we counting "no Palestinians left" as the end of the genocide? 😬

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Well hey, one of the reasons one might stop a genocide is because it’s been accomplished. So they may end up being technically correct on the first part.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The fact that some people voted for a basically open fascist because of something happening outside of their country is fucking wild

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I just hate when they say one imperialist colonizer is bad (Israel) yet another good (Russia). Fucking hypocrites don't actually care about the suffering - just the political wedge they can use.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I haven't ever even broached Tibet because I don't think I could stomach witnessing the ensuing trainwreck of logic.

It's just so incredibly intellectually disingenuous. I got in it with one at one point (big mistake on my part) saying that no country or system is perfect, and a meaningful indicator evidencing critical thought is the capacity to criticize your own system. What, in their mind, were the top issues with China?

  1. Too much freedom in the market.
  2. Doesn't project it's system outside it's border enough.

Ok. I'm talking to a rational actor. Lol.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I've had so many CCP bootlickers send me so many headlines about how much people in China claim to love the CCP. Tankies pretend they don't understand that a 99% approval rating is less indicative of a populace that adores their government, and more indicative of a populace afraid to criticize it.

Part of what got me banned over there was pointing out that Adolf Hitler got 99.3% of the votes in his last election, and asking whether they reckon that was because he was just such a great leader

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[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Tankies and trump supporters:

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

regressive fascist fuckface supporters and tankies all along:

[–] psyklax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 11 months ago

They're not actually going to stop, the news will just stop reporting about it, because we've got distraction-in-chief on twitter again daring North Korea to nuke us.

I remember 2017.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Are they still pretending they don’t support him? I thought for sure they’d all have given that ruse up the moment he won.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

Nah, they can go their entire lives pretending not to be dictator simps. When it comes to tankies, it was never about the communism and always about the tanks treading over the plebs.

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Sometimes you're happy to be proven wrong

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[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

He doesn’t even have to do it. He can just lie and they’ll believe it.

[–] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 6 points 11 months ago

I'm am "surprised" how confident they are in that prediction.

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