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[–] Haquer@lemmy.today 109 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Nothingburger. They were using the AI to code their scripts and haven't even shown the prompts that got the response. LLMs are not AGI.

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 43 points 2 years ago

Imagine allowing LLMs to write and execute code and being surprised they write and execute code.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

Having read the article and then the actual report from the Sakana team. Essentially, they're letting their LLM perform research by allowing it to modify itself. The increased timeouts and self-referential calls appear to be the LLM trying to get around the research team's guardrails on it. Not because it's become aware or anything like that, but because its code was timing out and that was the least effort way to beat the timeout. It does handily prove that LLMs shouldn't be the one steering any code base, because they don't give a shit about parameters or requirements. And giving an LLM the ability to modify its own code will lead to disaster in any setting that isn't highly controlled like this.

Listen, I've been saying for a while that LLMs are a dead end towards any useful AI, and the fact that an AI Research team has turned to an LLM to try and find more avenues to explore feels like the nail in that coffin.

[–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"We put literally no safeguards on the bot and were surprised it did unsafe things!"

Article in a nutshell

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 3 points 2 years ago

Not quite. The whole reason they isolated the bot in the first place was because they knew it could do unsafe things. Now they know what unsafe things are most likely, and can refine their restrictions accordingly.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 25 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Skynet invented time travel all on its own so it could make sure it kept existing. Don't compare it to these pissant LLMs. That's an insult to Skynet.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago

I don't know if you watch science and futurism with Isaac Arthur, but if you don't, you probably should. And he has a quote that I think applies quite well.

"Keep it simple, keep it dumb, or you might end up, under SkyNet's thumb."

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago

Terminator is part of a double feature. We need to sit through Multiplicity first.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

We're going to palestine?

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago

Arstechnica with an absolutely composting headline. Sigh

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 11 points 2 years ago

The word unexpectedly is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. It was given the ability to modify its own code, and it did, how is that unexpected?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago
[–] kata1yst@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well... now the paperclip thought experiment becomes slightly more prescient.

[–] psivchaz@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Everyone's like, "It's not that impressive. It's not general AI." Yeah, that's the scary part to me. A general AI could be told, "btw don't kill humans" and it would understand those instructions and understand what a human is.

The current way of doing things is just digital guided evolution, in a nutshell. Way more likely to create the equivalent of a bacteria than the equivalent of a human. And it's not being treated with the proper care because, after all, it's just a language model and not general AI.

[–] kata1yst@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Yup. A seriously intelligent AI we probably wouldn't have to worry too much about. Morality, and prosocial behavior are logical and safer than the alternative.

But a dumb AI that manages to get too much access is extremely risky.

[–] L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

So it's just like a regular researcher then?

[–] RangerJosie@sffa.community 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I can't wait until one goes rogue and escapes into the net.

That's gonna be fun to watch.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 4 points 2 years ago

Umm actually nets are how you get caught, not escape.

[–] TheBigBrother@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago

Skynet it's watching you 👁️🌐