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Feel free to rant and vent in this lemmy-thread, but don't speculate or "give good advice" to the operations-team; they know what they are doing.

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[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We have dual redundant links via separate physical hardware from our side to our Tier 1 ISP. We unexpectedly discovered their equipment is a single point failure.

Our Tier 1 ISP has just confirmed hardware failure of the upstream router (after 16 hours!) and will provision new replacement device once it has been shipped to site.

I wonder why the OSM team isn't calling the ISP out by name. Not having on-site spares at a Tier 1 is just, insane.

[–] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Amazingly, this isn't the first time I've heard of this happening.

Charging for a redundant line, then discovering that it actually wasn't one day when it goes down.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 8 points 1 year ago

"We paid for a redundant line but it wasn't redundant!"

'Sure it was. They just went to the same router.'

Can you imagine the straight face that tech must have had to keep?

[–] pietervdvn@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

I wonder why the OSM team isn’t calling the ISP out by name.

Because this would open up OSM for defamation (and hinders a commercial resolve). It doesn't solve anything right now.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

TL;DR

The OSM team is very small and constrained heavily by financials. They had a single ISP which acted as a single point of failure. They are moving to a new ISP but they expect the outage to last until Wednesday

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

SL;SR

The OSM team had redundant lines to the Tier 1 ISP, but the ISP bridged them into the same hardware (not a normal or expected thing).

[–] kabi@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That sounds like a very silly thing to do.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago

It sounds like a normal ISP