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[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

donald trump gets 10 warnings for intimidating witnesses and indefinite trial postponement for hoarding and most likely leaking classified documents. Sweet sweet justice.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

For the record, Aaron Swartz never actually went to trial, nor was he "sentenced" to anything.

Federal prosecutors came after him with overzealous charges in an effort to make him accept a plea deal (they do that a lot), which he rejected. It would have gone to court where the feds would have had to justify the charges they were bringing.

But that never happened because he killed himself.

We don't actually know how this all would have played out.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

People keep trying to convince me it's not evidence of two justice systems.

 

But it is.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's evidence that we live in corporatocracies masquerading as "democracies". The 0.1%, shielded by the liability protections of the corporations they own, and their armies of lobbyists — they finance our politics, choose who ends up on the ballot, and shadow write most of our legislation, policies, and regulations.

Trump is free because he is a part of that < 0.1%.

The Boeing execs who oversaw systemic fraud, lied to the FAA, and murdered 166 people still ARE FREE AND RICH. Why? Because they are the 0.1%.

The IPCC hosts fossil fuelled climate summits in fossil fuel exporting countries, inviting fossil fuel corporations and lobbyists to attend — at a scientific conference about how to solve the crisis they created and profited from! why? Because we live in corporatocracies.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Look, the kid was a hero, but this is also patently false.

He was not sentenced to 35 years. The trial hadn't started. 35 years was the maximum possible sentence. He was given a plea deal for 6 months that he rejected.

We don't need to spin lies to make his story more tragic than it already is.

[–] GluWu@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

35 years max, plea for 1/2 that was rejected. He was going to get the book thrown at him to make an example. 5 years minimum but I wouldn't doubt 10-20.

The rapist traitor that headed a insurrection on Jan 6 2021 has never spent a day in jail and is still the frontrunner for president to be legally elected in 2024.

[–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For bulk downloading science journals he had access to.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

for breaking and entering*

and DoS

[–] grandma@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Articles paid for by the public through grants btw

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

With authors often paying for open access publications literally out of their very own money, not just grants.

Not at the time this happened. Aaron's case was one of the motivating factors that led to the Open Access publication movement gaining enough traction that authors could publish that way. JSTOR access is paid for and administered on college campuses by libraries and librarians as a whole field felt terrible both about the paid publication system and the way Aaron was treated. As a community of professionals, the Librarian and Information Science community pushed very hard for the adoption of Open Access publishing into the Academic community.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Judicially murdered by Carmen Ortiz.

[–] Bruhh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If I remember correctly, it wasn't even illegal since these scientific articles should have been public to begin with because they used public funds.

[–] SparrowRanjitScaur@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

That may be so, but IIRC he was charged with breaking into MIT's networking room and illegally tapping into their network to get the articles:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2261840/Aaron-Swartz-MIT-surveillance-shot-ruined-tragic-Reddit-founders-life.html

[–] K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

That also may be so, but 35 years is fucked up for that. pretty sure child porn first time offenders is like 15 to 30 so hacking MIT for stuff that should have been free gets you more jail time then a first CP offence. OK thats fucked up

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Well that's definitely burying the lede from the OP.

It wasn't the sharing part they had a problem with, it was the B&E and hacking.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

still... 35 years? obviously there is more missing information.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Most of these guys they just offer jobs to. This was needless. No wonder China is kicking our ass on the cyber front

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The whole criminals getting job offers has never been true and will never be true. For many of such jobs you aren't qualified if you have a criminal record, even small offenses disqualify you.

[–] K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

I mean thousands of war criminals were offered jobs after ww2 so I doubt they would care about a little red tape just hire them into the black no one needs to know

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip

[–] fossphi@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I highly recommend watching the documentary on him, Internet's own boy.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Lianodel@ttrpg.network 1 points 2 years ago

Just for context for those who haven't heard the podcast: the Christmas episodes often center around non-bastards. This is one of those. :P