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[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The most important traits for doing well at work (in this order):

  • clear, effective, and efficient communication
  • taking ownership of problems
  • having your boss and team members like you on a personal level
  • competence at your tasks
[–] alex@jlai.lu 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Being emotionally detached from really stupid leadership decisions is harder than it seems

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Took me a lot of years to not think it's my company that is being run into the ground. I should not - and nowadays could not - care any less.

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The company doesn't care about you. The company doesn't care about you. The company doesn't care about you.

[–] ME5SENGER_24@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

My uncle spent years preaching to me about the need to be loyal to a company. I never drank the Kool-Aid. He spent 21 years working for an investment banking company in their IT department. 4 years before he was set to retire with a full pension, etc. his company was acquired by a larger bank. He lost everything except his 401k. He then spent the next 12 years working to get his time back so he’d be able to retire. He died 2 years ago and the company sent a bouquet of flowers.

THE COMPANY DOESN’T CARE ABOUT YOU!!

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They refer to you as .... HUMAN RESOURCES

You aren't a person, you are an instrument the company uses to make more money for itself. If you die or can no longer work, you will be replaced by another human resource.

[–] Skaryon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I had a prof twisting himself into knots trying to argue that human resources really is a positive term because companies care about and maintain their resources

[–] XEAL@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

Not even if you do valuable or efficent stuff for the company. You're disposable.

[–] incogtino@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago

Your employer does not care about you. You are not important or irreplaceable

Take your time and energy and put it into your life, not their business

I have had coworkers die (not work related) and by the time you hear about it (like the next day) they have already worked out who will get the work done so the machine doesn't have to stop

[–] demlet@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Success is mainly about sucking up to the right people. No matter how good you are at your job, you have to know how to play work politics. Most bosses don't know how to evaluate actual ability, and they're much less objective than they think. Usually they favor more likeable employees over capable ones if forced to choose. Human life is a popularity contest, always has been, always will be. That's the side effect of being a highly social species...

[–] jbrains@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

There is no ideal place to work where they "do it right", whatever kind of "right" you care about right now. When you change jobs, you merely exchange one set of problems for another.

[–] squirrel_bear@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

Always agree on compensation/salary before starting your work.

[–] superfly_samurai@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago

There's no such thing as quiet quitting. I prefer acting your wage.

[–] dansity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

People in your workplace don't know shit. There are a few who know stuff but the majority is dumb, careless or the combination of the two. Surprisingly the higher you go the more dumb and careless there are. We are designing monster billion dollar construction projects and some of my colleagues have problems with understanding written english. Others cannot learn a software that has literally 3 buttons in them they have to press. I don't even know sometimes why I am trying.

[–] Waldowal@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

You don't have to run the rat race to get promoted. You don't have to be at your desk at 7am and leave at 7pm to put on a show. Just be competent. Most people are not. You'll eventually get promoted once you are old and white enough.

[–] krayj@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Your employer is ALWAYS looking for a way to either get more work out of you for the same compensation, or replace you with some one or some process that produces the equivalent output for less cost. The entire idea that employees should be loyal to their employers is one of the most successful propaganda campaigns ever spawned by capitalism.

[–] CoolBeance@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's suffocating to be in a middle management position because you get squeezed by the higher-ups and your own team. If the higher-ups make a decision that your team dislikes or vice versa, you're going to be in the shitter with whichever party suffered every time even if you had the best intentions.

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 years ago

If you make your work processes more efficient, you don’t need to tell anyone right away, if at all.

[–] patomaloqueiro@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Minimum wage, minimum effort

[–] oce@jlai.lu 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

HR protect the company first, the employees second.

[–] Elw@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

100%. The rebranding of some HR departments as "People Officers" or "People Team" drives me bonkers. When push comes to shove, they will always protect the interests of the business before the interests of the employee. Full stop.

[–] NoSleep@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago

You are right, but to be fair. "Human Ressources" was an awful name to begin with.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I learnt meritocracy is a joke long before I discovered that it was literally invented to be a joke.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[–] Polymath@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The longer you work anywhere -- and I mean ANYWHERE -- the more you see the bullshit and corruption and crappy rules or policies and inequality all over.
For me it has been about the 3 year mark anywhere I've worked: once you get past that, you fade away from "damn I'm glad to have a job and be making money!" and towards "this is absolute bulls#!t that [boss] did [thing] and hurt the workers in the process!" or similar

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

3 years? What nirvana corp do you work at?

[–] darkstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Funny, that's actually what motivated me at my last job. Things were fucked up, but not so fucked up that it was overwhelming. It was the Goldilocks zone of just fucked up enough that I think I can not only fix it, but look good if I do. It was a fun journey, all told, but there were definitely frustrations, even ones that lasted years.

[–] Polymath@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

the Goldilocks zone of just fucked up enough

Hahaha, I love it

[–] Signtist@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Efficient workers get more work if you're in the office. I work from home, and that allows me to work efficiently until my work is done, set up scheduled emails to go out at the time I would've otherwise been done, then do what I want until then.

I see your work doesn't have invasive programs that check idle mouse and idle keyboard behaviors.

this is an old one but i can't help thinking, what if they installed it without my knowledge, after all, my work laptop was given to me already pre prepared by our IT department.

[–] Wakkawakkawakka@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What job do you have where you’re not allowed to take care of your health when necessary?

[–] tryagain@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I think we can all guess the country. I wish you all the best, wakkawakkawakka.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

They're not your friends, even if they act like that.

The management just sees you as expense factor and does not care about you except for how to get the most work done for the least amount of money. Your team leader does not care about you and only cares if their numbers look good. Your colleagues do not care about you and only see you as competition or the idiot they can give their work to.

If someone is nice to you they want something from you not because they like you.