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[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Is the name of the vulnerability literally *sshole?

[–] esc@piefed.social 50 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

tldr: disable password auth in ssh.

Also name misses the point I think, it's a musl-hole.

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

i mean assholes are muscle holes.

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago

What an aSSHole!

[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 82 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

The only time I ever exposed my SSH port to the WAN, I got about 750 connection attempts from China and 250 attemps from Russia per hour.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yet some people will still say with a straight face "tHeRe iS nO hYbRiD wAr!1!1"

Not in Ba Sing Se at least...

[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

This was about 20 years ago btw. I know it's gotten worse. But it started earlier than most think.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 hours ago

Yeah, BBC has a whole documentary about it. Plus the russian state department basically published it all in a propaganda manual. They don't exactly try to hide this stuff...

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago

New friends from all over the world!

[–] nexusband@lemmy.world 24 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

yeah, while reading this i was going "What maniac exposes SSH to WAN anyway...?" the whole time. I fail to see any reason or point that can be justified exposing SSH to WAN.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 26 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I used to have a synology NAS that would sleep of death itself. Synology support asked me to port forward SSH to the open internet and set no password so they could pull logs over the next few weeks.

Yes, it was legit synology support not a scammer.

No, I haven’t bought synology ever again.

[–] modus@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

What do you use now? Qnap?

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 hours ago

I build my own stuff now. I tried qnap after synology but it just sucked in different ways.

[–] greybeard@feddit.online 4 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Not the person you responded to, but I'll give my unsolicited advice: I switched to Unifi NAS. QNAP has had a lot of security nightmares, and a bad habit of EOLing devices.

The best option might actually be using an old workstation and going with something like TrueNAS, but I enjoy the convenience of a purpose built box.

One big difference between Unifi NAS and something like QNAP or Synology, is that the Unifi NAS only does NAS work, it doesn't run containers or "apps". You need separate compute if you want to run containers.

[–] Drigo@sopuli.xyz 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

One thing I didn't know before buying a UniFi Nas was it does not support raid0 or jbod unfortunately

[–] modus@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

The sounds like a big one. Doesn't affect me, but you'd think a lot of people would want one of those.

[–] modus@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Unifi actually sounds better. I'm the same and want my NAS to be optimized by someone smarter than me. I've been using qnap and don't really care for half the crap they offer. They're not as enshittified as Synology, but they're getting there.

[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

99.999% of that is over IPv4. I leave IPv6 open to WAN for my own use and it's not a problem.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago

Thanks for the intel

[–] Zarobi@aussie.zone 7 points 16 hours ago

Yeah it's crazy. Are they just constantly pinging every possible ip address on every possible port every second? I opened a port for 1 day and the traffic made me uncomfortable enough to rearchitecture my entire self host setup

[–] DevDave@piefed.social 12 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

practically need to rotate logs every hour if you foolishly leave ssh open on a open network. usually a bastion with ssh listening to port 34000 or such is a good first step.

that said the conditions for this exploit are fascinating. no pam, shadow password set to *, using a alternative to glibc. The sacrifices to be more efficient feel on par with replacing a tank's armor with paper mache and hope.

[–] iocase@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 hours ago

The best armor is to not get hit!

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 12 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Further, OpenSSH using musl (pronounced muscle) must not use PAM (pluggable authentication modules),

which Alpine doesn't ship by default. Maybe one or the other remote administration suite depends on it, but those are often suspectible to exploits anyway. But you don't expose either to WAN, right?

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 67 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can they please take a break from having vulnerabilities

[–] MyFriendGodzilla@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago (1 children)

nah, find and fix as many as possible.

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 60 points 1 day ago (7 children)

It seems like the pattern emerging is that AI is great at finding these obscure vulnerabilities that are only exploitable on very particular systems with very particular, non-typical configurations, and only on nights where unicorns fart candycorn.

Sure, fix them, but the hype is too much. Also, disable password auth on SSH already. Jesus. Keys arnt that hard.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

More like AI is much faster at finding obscure vulnerabilities, because it doesn't get tired of digging into the mind-numbing details of human-generated spaghetti code. Give a human the same kind of task, and they would die of boredom 12 hours into it.

We're entering an age where AI is quickly cleaning up the stupid security holes that have been created by decades of human mistakes, and will continue to be this way until increased AI security reviews will become more standard. The tribals wielding spears will continue to get shot by superior firepower until they adapt to the same weapons and protection themselves.

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

"Cleaning up" seems a little generous. It's finding them, but someone still has to patch them.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago

Most vulnerability patches are a few lines of code. Finding it is the hard part.

Even then, the AI session that found it probably already has a solution to fix it.

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[–] MyFriendGodzilla@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I agree about the AI, but desktop Linux has never been under haxxor pressure the same way windows or apple has. I also think the newer parts of the userbase are less technical than even ten years ago. Previously undocumented bugs found and squashed is great for everyone.

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[–] boatswain@infosec.pub 39 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Given this is a vuln when entering the password, just turn off password auth and use ssh keys only. It's what you should be doing anyway.

[–] asap@lemmy.world 16 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (3 children)

The vuln is specifically for key-based accounts:

Second, the target system account must be configured to be passwordless. Passwordless accounts are commonly used for accounts that use certificate-based authentication.

[–] dan@upvote.au 13 points 19 hours ago

"passwordless" here means that the account doesn't have a password. What the person you're replying to means is that password authentication should be completely disabled in the SSH config, as that's the only way to exploit this issue.

[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 18 points 21 hours ago

But passwords need to be enabled for SSH. You must submit a faulty password of a specific kind, and the SSH server misinterprets it for passwordless accounts, which means the server must be configured to allow you to attempt a password.

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[–] db2@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] sorter_plainview@lemmy.today 33 points 1 day ago

The person who discovered *sshole said OpenWRT is affected, but by default, that OS uses the Dropbear package, not OpenSSH, for SSH connections (though maintainers provide instructions for installing the latter).

[–] AppleMango@lemmy.world 14 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Most ssh ports should be accessed through a VPN anyway, not exposed directly to the internet

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Are you sure the VPN server has the smaller attack surface than the SSH server?

[–] dan@upvote.au 22 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (6 children)

Wireguard and apps based on it (like Tailscale) don't respond at all unless the data is signed with the key of a configured peer (or with Tailscale, a system on your tailnet that passes the ACL). It's literally impossible for an outsider/attacker to detect with a port scan since it just ignores unauthenticated packets.

The Wireguard codebase is also extremely small. The core Wireguard implementation (the version in the Linux kernel) is around 5,000 lines long, so an experienced developer can read through all the code if they dedicate a day or two to it, and understand how it works.

For comparison, OpenVPN is around 70,000 lines of code and OpenSSH is around 150,000 lines of code. There's a huge number of features in SSH!

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