Jan 1, 2027 Governments pay homeowners to stop introducing solar energy to the grid.
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Because it was being artificialy suppressed.
Now we need to figure out how to suck emissions out of the air with it.
The current most scalable way to do that is to give cities a budget to plant trees everywhere they can.
I would love a $Billion in green energy research, but 1000 cities getting $Million budgets to plant thousands of trees and maintain them over the next 15 years would be better
We should start buying farms in the Califoirnia Valley where they are essentially abusing water rights - and plant massive forests. It would take a fraction of the water to accomplish this and reduce desertification. Eat some of the smog from LA & SD, give the millions of residents a desert forest to camp in, and so on. Expensive plan but one I would vote for.
I guess. I'm just sceptical that people will actually not cut them down later.
I want carbon dioxyde turned into something less profitable to turn into coal again.
Cutting them down after a long period is fine. The real need is cooling and CO2 reduction over the next 20 years by which society should be mostly carbon neutral.
Not that this is a bad thought, it's great and we should do that, but it's not enough. We essentially burned the growth of millions of years of broken down stuff as oil, and that carbon went into the atmosphere. We need to retrieve millions of years of organic growth and put it back into the ground.
I've seen ideas of seaweed farms with the purpose of growing them and then sinking them in the ocean depths to get them out of the cycle. I suspect something would learn to live off them though.
If we had a way to make oil from the carbon in the air directly plus an energy input, and then a way to pump that back where we got it is what we need. Maybe there could be a crop that makes this conversion somehow. Like maybe grow something to make ethanol and then convert that. Labor and energy intensive but that's what it will take since we just used all the energy.
I have it on good authority that if you filter air though the corpse of a billionaire, much of the pollutants are removed.
Build 75m tall towers in every city and fill them basement to roof with hepa filters.
Bring new meaning to the term "skyscraper"
HEPA would remove particulate but not CO2 or methane emissions, which are what drive climate change.
We’d have some clean ass air for sure though.
The key is to have something that the masses would use. Something disguised as another product, powered by renewables.
Radical, but probably expensive AF
Its almost like solar panels last forever and are easy to make at scale or something.
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Who tf made that last prediction?
Yeah I know it's been growing exponentially over the last few years and the last prediction was higher than this and it blew through that one but I really think this is the absolute plateau. Maybe like 1MW more but that's it ...
All the displayed predictions are equally stupid and just look like gas and fuel lobby copium.
Well, at least the earlier ones resembled a logistic curve, which is how you would model something like this, like population there is some ceiling that will slow things down, whatever the ceiling might be. So the others at least shaped their model correctly, with an incorrect ceiling.
The last one is just a weird assumption that a flat ceiling has been hit with zero slowdown, which would demand a pretty particular explanation as to why they think such a weird shape would happen.
TBF we're talking about the industry that tricked the entire globe into thinking leaded gasoline was safe. Falsified data. Hired scientists to lie in congress. All while fully knowing the dangers.
This is much more sinister than copium.
tricked the entire globe
With one exception:
In 1956, the Soviet Union banned leaded gasoline in large cities, such as Moscow, Leningrad, Baku, Odessa, Kiev and tourist areas of the Caucasus and Crimea
who's making the predictions, the petrol industry?
Exactly we've been held back massively by their propaganda, they should be punished for the damages they did and are still doing but who am I kidding...
The predictions aren't even doing linear regression, feels like taking 10 year old data and fitting on current trend
a toddler with a sharpie you say?
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Forget about the predictions and look at the growth only. It’s the legendary hockey stick. The stuff MBAs dream about. US manufacturers, engineers and the less shitty VCs should be fucking furious that they were kneecapped at every step and basically forbidden from participating in this market in any real way.
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Ehh, this month's been slow for me. Haven't seen the sun for a week now.
Positively basking in it RN
Lol what is that latest preduction? "Sure, solar production has risen like never before, but surely now the production will plateau."
I mean. Some of them predicted it would go down. So.
I think this chart gives the feeling of plateau, because it’s showing the projected rates of growth at different times, but the move the baseline up to the actual production level at the time it was projected.
So actually each new estimate is for a higher rate of growth overall, but all have still fallen short of reality. Possibly because non of them had “idiot invades country unprovoked and disrupts worldwide oil supply” in the estimate.
listen, I have been wrong every time, but this time, when I make the same prediction that has been wrong every time previously, you're gonna feel real dumb for doubting me
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Independence from the billionaire fascists that want to control my energy is worth paying a premium for. The fact that it’s also cheaper is a nice bonus though.
Saving money on your bills is not like increasing your income, there is no tax on reducing your outgoings and depending where you are Solar pays off in about 5 to 7 years and your expecting it to be 80% as good at 25 years. In terms of capital investments its one of the most reliable places to put money and get a decent return. Annualised ROI is about 6% for that 25 years but then the panels are still going to work a lot longer just at a bit less output.
Is worth paying a premium for
Hopefully, not to same billionaire fascists again
the only one what looks like a legitimate prediction is the one what crosses 400GW. starting 2023? 2024?
Yeah what the fuck is that 600GW prediction. Did they think collectively the solar industry would be like, "okay y'all we reached 600GW, pack it up goals reached"?
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