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[–] Pratai@piefed.ca 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thus proving it’s not about safety. It’s 100% about surveillance.

[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

It's about money. It's always money.

[–] halloween_spookster@lemmy.world 109 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Stop pussyfooting around and charge their asses with CRIMES. All the way to the CEO who is responsible for the conduct of their employees disregarding their instructions.

[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago

The only reason they are pulling this shit is that they know the cops are addicted to the power they're giving them. Won't investigate, won't arrest.

[–] nerdo@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 day ago

If they’re making enough money stealing data to reinstall for free then cities have no justification to pay them a dime

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 61 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Sounds like the city should confiscate them, sell them, and use the profits for something good like buying some books for the library, food for soup kitchens, etc.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Start arresting Flock workers that put up the cameras when they don't have permission. It will only take a couple arrests before the techs refuse to do it anymore.

[–] sportsjorts@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

This is the way. Fines are a cost of doing business these days.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I like your idea, but I'm not holding my breath.

[–] Potocobe@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can they charge you with destruction of property if they don’t know whose property it is? Seems like the way forward is to just keep breaking these things. More of us than them. They want the data. Don’t give it to them.

[–] redballooon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In any sane state that values freedom the whole business model would be illegal.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 45 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The fact that Flock is regularly doing this as, apparently, standard operating procedure makes me wonder if they have some orders from/agreement with the federal government to do so.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I can't imagine what agreement would allow for a private company to place equipment on city-owned property just because the federal government say's its okay.

[–] flilare@piefed.zip 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Agreement to pardon anything that might stick in exchange for a full surveillance network.

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The feds have no power to absolve the company of state crimes. Though I think it's just littering in this case. The city is within its rights to just take the cameras down.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

While that's partially true, the DOJ has a LOT of leverage, especially with how closely this version is tied to the executive branch. It wouldn't take much to simply lean on a state legislature or even a local one and say "hey you either cut our guy loose or bad things might happen."

Welcome to the Mafia oligarchy.

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

I'm sure you could make an argument for destruction of government property for disturbing the ground they install them on. Almost surely won't stick, but might until thing start getting charged and in the system, nothing will happen.