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[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

Go check the UnitedKingdom subreddit if you want to see the celebratory bloodlust of the average Briton, the blatant alternative truths and so on, and this is of the young progressive sort, the average 40+ boomeroid probably no longer bothers with that mask even.

I am so tired. I've fought the good fight for so long for my people but in the end it's like it was all pointless.

[–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

All 83 of them?

Really that is the total for the entire country. Ya, it's a "serious" problem. .... Sure

[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm not particularly well educated on the subject but according to the BBC:

Fewer than 100 young people in England are currently prescribed puberty blockers by the NHS. They will all able to continue their treatment.

So why such a big fuss?

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Blocks any future access to trans kids

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Can puberty blocking be reversed at a later date?

Or can blocked puberty be reverted later?

I could agree with a ban whole heatedly if blocking can't be reversed and blocked cannot be reverted, but I would likely to oppose a ban it if blocking can be reversed and blocked could be reverted.

Gets a little fuzzy if it's one or the other though.

Wouldn't want someone to miss their only chance to block puberty, but also wouldn't want someone to make a permanent choice at 13-14 which can't be reversed if they want to later on.

[–] ondoyant@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

puberty blockers are used explicitly to delay having to go through puberty. they are used for kids who have precocious puberty (puberty that starts too early), as well as for trans kids. there are some marginal risks associated with them, you might grow a bit shorter, or just generally develop differently that you might have if you had allowed puberty to progress on time, but there aren't specific health challenges people who use them face. the reason you take them is to explicitly prevent somebody from going through irreversible changes they might not like before they can make an informed decision, or before it is healthy for those changes to occur.

interestingly, most of the poor health outcomes of precocious puberty are psychological and social, not physical, which is, i think, an interesting parallel to the trans experience.

[–] Murvel@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Good, there's not enough scientific evidence to claim it's safe for children, hence the ban....

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Given the drug has been used for almost 40 years. Lack of evidence it is safe. Is just a political way of saying we have no evidence it is dangerous.

After 40 years of clinical use. With many patients benifiting from its application. And the medications passing the medical trials standards of the 1980s. Pretty much any other medication the NHS has banned or restricted use of. Was because of new evidence. Not the lack of it. I say pretty much. Because cost and politics has been used in the past. The NHS was just more open about the reasons.

Restricting a long used medicine with a lack of evidence. Is a political not a scientific choice.

[–] Murvel@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago

I have no idea what you source those beliefs on but research dome in Sweden just last year concludes:

Data on the effects on psychosocial health are lacking but there is some evidence that hormonal treatment may impact on bone maturation.

https://news.ki.se/systematic-review-on-outcomes-of-hormonal-treatment-in-youths-with-gender-dysphoria

So no, I would not claim it is risk free, especially when given to children.

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago

Scientist have collected all the data and decided the experts on Lemmy are wrong.