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[–] melfie@lemmy.zip 149 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If I’m paying that much for a device, I damned well better have root access. I’m done buying machines that big corpos control.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 57 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’ll bet they do this like a phone plan. Bundle the console with GamePass, and give folks a 3 year contract that is broken into a combined monthly payment for the cloud service and a hardware payment plan.

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

they did that with the previous Xbox,called it the all access pass. It was the unit combined with gamepass ult which you had for the duration of the two or three-year payment plan I understand their thought process on it because it does do a good job at forcing the consumer to have a subscription they normally wouldn't have, but in reality, the only thing it did was make it so I didn't purchase any actual games for the unit, so when their overpriced subscription finally ran out, I had no reason to continue using the console, and it's basically collected dust since because all of the games I would have purchased, I had already played via Game Pass Ultimate, and I had no hard copy games to play.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

To be fair, it would’ve helped if they had compelling games worth playing. There was a brief minute when X / S users were feasting, but a lot of the studios MS bought turned into dud factories.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

but a lot of the studios MS bought turned into dud factories.

but MS turned the studios they bought into dud factories.

--ftfy

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[–] IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com 68 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's okay by the time its released us regular people won't be allowed to exist.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 44 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Looks like console gaming is just admitting its strategy is to soak their shrinking player base for as much as possible before they collapse.

[–] Master167@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Signs that the corporations look at the video game market as no longer a growth market but a mature market.

"No point in trying to bring more people into the market since exponential growth can't be achieved. Time to milk the players for every dollar they have." -Some Video Game executive.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 week ago

And the indies and AA's will rise from the ashes

[–] Janx@piefed.social 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I project Microsoft can lick my taint. They bought up all the studies, shut down most of them, cancelled all the good games, raised prices, forced AI into everything, want to abandon physical media and lock us in to their digital store and have a monopoly on pricing... And they still can't release a console at a reasonable price. 🖕 Microsoft has abandoned gamers, let them suffer when the AI bubble pops.

[–] NathanRanch@lemmy.zip 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"Xbox is partnering with Klarna..."

[–] ObsidianFlux@fedinsfw.app 38 points 1 week ago (4 children)

No thanks I'm good I'm not gamer anymore.

[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 week ago (6 children)
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[–] Pratai@piefed.ca 36 points 1 week ago (3 children)

While a $1,200 starting price would be historically high for the game console market, even accounting for inflation, it also reflects a new normal: The slowdown in Moore’s Law and AI-driven component shortages mean cutting-edge gaming hardware just isn’t as cheap as it used to be. This year, the Steam Machine broke the $1,000 starting price, while the 2-year-old technology in the PlayStation 5 Pro is now going for $900, and the 6-year-old Xbox Series X now starts at $750.

It’s super-duper awesome that they were kind enough to pass all the cost down to us.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Moores law hasn't been a thing for over a decade. It's just the AI industry consuming all the compute

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

Also, Moore's law wouldn't be. areason for prices of existing hardware to go up

[–] sanzky@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

and apparently MSFT has more than $80b in GPUS sitting idling in warehouses since they haven't built (if they ever do) the data centers to run them.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago

The people demand UMDs!

[–] the_q@piefed.social 25 points 1 week ago (3 children)

My 7900 xtx must last forever.

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[–] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Does it massage my balls as well for that price or....

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[–] h0tbeef@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 week ago
[–] Surp@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago
[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No thanks, going to stick with my gaming PC I got like 4 years ago.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

AI companies ruin the RAM and video card market, so no one runs 200GB models for free.

This ruins the new-game market on PC and consoles.

AI allows people to spin copies of games

Next up,
All consoles fail
All console makers stop letting people have binaries
Gaming as a service AGAIN

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

AI companies ruin the RAM and video card market, so no one runs 200GB models for free.

No, AI companies ruin the RAM, Storage, and video market so no one can compute independently, and they all have to stream cloud services which can be monitored by AI, gatekept without the possibility of piracy (or first sale doctorine), unhackable/unmodable, and rented forever.

This is way bigger than gaming. What happens when they can predict markets? What happens when they can move markets? When journalists get silenced, when inconvenient truths are hidden?

Why wouldn’t they when we are so dependent on it?

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[–] sportsjorts@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago

Who the fuck has money anymore. Trump can get fucked!

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Without a disc drive as well. Nah, I'm good

[–] alphabethunter@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

I'm only afraid that Gamers will actually fucking buy it, and Microsoft (and others) will learn that gamers will keep buying consolee for almost 2k dollars, and then future consoles will never go down in price. Just like it happened with graphics cards, when Nvidia learned that gamers would buy 2x Titan class gpus (which were not supposed to be a gaming card), and then discovered they could sell a 90 class for 1500+ dollars (and going up with each generation) and the fuckers would still gladly buy it, and that they would also still buy cards with prices inflated at 200~300% values during the crypto boom.

[–] thejml@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

6 years ago I would have said that was nuts, but 6 years ago I bought 32GB of DDR5 for $100... now the same sticks are $500+, so I feel like this is just the new normal and I'm just going to go back to my retro systems with carts and systems I actually own.

[–] h0tbeef@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

My Sega Genesis still works like a charm, and humans still make new games for it occasionally

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[–] CoconutLove@lemmy.today 11 points 1 week ago

Just went back to check on two sticks of 32GB I bought in 2024 for $215. The same two sticks are listed for $1600.

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They could charge 12 dollars, I'm still not buying it.

[–] maya_s_trojan@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I wouldn't buy that for a dollar!

[–] zikzak025@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

For $1 though? I might. Disable updates, keep it offline, wait for the first jailbreak and then do whatever you want with the hardware

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[–] Gormadt@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 week ago
[–] TrackenDaKracken@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

I predict it gets canceled.

I suppose if the AI bubble pops, and memory and CPU prices crash, then maybe it will happen. But, that's going to be very hard on the entire economy, so maybe it will be canceled for that reason, instead.

[–] thehatfox@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

With these sorts told prices being rumoured I’m not sure how viable this next generation is going to be.

Disposable incomes are dwindling, future economic prospects look…uncertain to put it positively. Parents especially sleek unlikely to spend 4 figures on a console when their kids already have phones.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

At that price (which will probably be closer to 2k CAD) I think my console gaming life will be over. It was a good run from NES to now.

Steam deck is looking more and more appealing or just build my own computer again

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[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

oh people are going to buy the shit out of this. Guaranteed. We can all boycott here, I know I'm not going to buy one, but Microsoft don't care. Want to know what Microsoft sees?

  • Sells well? Hooray profit, let's give everything back to the shareholders
  • Flops? Let's close Xbox and lay everyone off, we just have an excuse now.

It's a win win for them. Personally I think most people are going to happily line up at the slop line and eat up.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Let me check between my couch cushions...

[–] Shin@piefed.social 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If this is the price... Maybe would be nice to have a way to install SteamOS on the console. Or better install any Linux so I can use as a working station and a gaming gig.

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 8 points 1 week ago

Wouldn't surprise me at all looking at the Ally. Not to mention the new PS6 being projected >$1k.

[–] Saarth@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

So fucking glad I built a PC in 2023.

[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago

If people pay that I will scream into a pillow.

[–] Axolotl_cpp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago

Atp just buy a computer

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