Climate

Neither party campaign's on climate policy so the problem is the party, not the voter.

which oil executive should i vote for

I think things like voter suppression, access to information also weigh a lot heavier than some might think.

I'm also kind of wondering how they came up with this number of 11 million, if people are not politically motivated and activated but are still politically conscious enough to have priorities, there are systemic issues keeping them from voting. And especially at these large numbers, simply saying 'well they should vote' and being angry about them supposedly not voting won't change a damn thing.

We don't need to yell at people. We need to fucking strategize.

Check any political thread here or elsewhere and you will hear a regular refrain of "both parties are the same" and "voting doesn't matter because it's all rigged!" A huge percentage of Americans have fallen for that line of bullshit and now don't bother to vote at all no matter what they think is important. It's a sad fact that propaganda works.

I did vote so this isn't my personal opinion. I've been told many times it's "voting for the lesser of two evils, they're both evil and I don't agree with either." There's no real sense of choice. I can see it. It very much feels like that South Park episode where they have to vote for the school mascot. Do you want it to be a Giant Douche or, a Turd Sandwich? And then at the end it was all for nothing because they don't change their mascot so it was all pointless.

Edit: you guys can call me stupid all you want. It doesn't change the fact that I've heard this from coworkers and family repeatedly. I did vote. In fact, I've already voted in my primaries. The question was "why don't people vote?" I gave the answer of why I personally have been told by people they don't vote. Not liking my answer doesn't change the reality of it. I work in blue collar work. It's a very common view in my area. Or, they are pro Trump.

My personal opinion on why they don't vote or, don't vote in favor of things they support, they generally don't want to take the time to educate themselves. And for others, they don't want to feel responsible for voting when their candidate turns out to be nothing like they promised.

if clearly motivated people don’t want to vote for you, it’s not an indication that they should lower their standards, it’s an indication that you should have standards to begin with

it’s cute how liberals here are so resilient to reality. people don’t care for slow, steady, painfully incremental progress (if even that) when every summer is so much hotter than the last one.

Both candidates were pro war. War is the top polluting activity humans do. People chose not to vote last time because we had absolutely miserable candidate choices, an undemocratic primary, and formal war crimes support from our own party. Anyone who wags a finger after that shenanigans and talks about climate in isolation from the rest of it is missing the forest through the trees.

I mean, they don't even care enough about their warmongering, lying, felonious child rapist of a president. French students are legit protesting harder than Muricans against their pedophile leader. Make it make sense.

As we all know, if you just keep telling people to vote, eventually they'll just be like "Yeah! I'm gonna take off work from the job that doesn't give me time off, go find a polling place, which isn't close and crowded because the state doesn't run enough polling places, then try to go there in a town without public transportation! Why didn't I think of this sooner?" Then they get there and find out that most of the local elections are uncontested and the federal ones have only a choice between no climate policy and climate policy which is insufficient but delays the necessary work until it's too late. Then after begrudgingly voting, they realize that their districts are so gerrymandered their vote basically didn't count anyway.

Nope, no need to change anything, we just need to keep telling people to go vote. It hasn't worked yet, but... uh....................................

Because the Democrats also have a terrible climate policy?

I think a more interesting question would be, regardless of someone's priorities, why they don't vote.

Which of the two pro-corporate neoliberal parties in the US care about the environment again?

You won’t be seeing much in the way of “climate change” messaging this time around because it’s been rolled into “reducing energy costs” messaging. Since LCOEs for solar and wind have fallen below natural gas plants, which were previously the cheapest if you ignored the SCC, politicians have decided to rebrand. Campaigning on cutting energy costs polls much better when the economy is in poor shape so this is more effective.

It’s also worth noting that the last time that Democrats controlled the legislature and the executive they took substantial action;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation_Reduction_Act#Energy_and_climate_change

Most people want to eat dinner but many refuse to pray for it.

Listen, existential threats are important and all, but there's a trans kid who wants to play soccer, and I vaguely remember something about a tan suit, so... I think I'll just sit this one out - surely my countrymen can be trusted to make the right decision!

Gotta have standards, ya know?

They probably let idiots/bots convince them not to vote over some culture war bullshit or wedge issue designed specifically to keep them away from the polls.

Probably because both party do not care about climate, they should still at least vote for the green

We might get some of them out to vote if there were someone on the ballot with progressive climate views they were willing to vote for. I'm not saying it's 100% guaranteed to work, but we could try it, just once maybe, and see what happens.

because climate concerns are not a concern with either party? both sides may not be the same, but they hold the same views on 90% of all things. and more and more that last 10% seems to be things they want but are still ashamed about it.