No technology has ever resulted in lighter workloads for the average person. Different, and sometimes less strenuous, but never less time consuming.
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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted clever little truths, hidden in daily life.
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- Both “200” and “160” are 2 minutes in microwave math
- When you’re a kid, you don’t realize you’re also watching your mom and dad grow up.
- More dreams have been destroyed by alarm clocks than anything else
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Washing machine.
Also, lighter work loads and less time consuming are different arguments - unless you mean no technology has ever resulted in neither, which is a rather bold statement.
Counterpoint: The cotton gin. It was supposed to make slavery obsolete, but actually reinvigorated the practice of slavery by making slaves able to do more work.
Before washing machines, people would hand off washing to professionals. Now the expectation is that the person who can afford it must wash things themselves. More time spent on that.
Before washing machines, people would hand off washing to professionals.
Uh, maybe for rich people...
Let me introduce you to the washboard and the bucket.

Pretty sure every piece of technology past the wheel can be considered to save humans time with their tasks.
Dish washer, laundry washer, laundry drier, lawn mower, a vehicle, there’s thousands dude.
AI is meant to automate the boring stuff so we can make art and write stories. Instead, it's been used to make art and write stories so all we're left with is the boring stuff
Isn't ai art boring and ai stories insufferable?
The ruling class doesn't care.
If somebody invented a machine that literally doubles worker productivity, do you think a company would just let everybody work half as much?
There has never been a case of capitalism using improvements in efficiency to let people work less, use fewer resources, etc.
It's always more, more, more.
As some wise boys said 40 years ago, "you gotta fight, for your right, to party".
If AI is doing all the jobs, then those who used to do those jobs are now unemployed and broke, but at least they can spend more time with their family, outdoors, at the homeless camp.
Why would "they" (the CEOs, tech bros, owners) be saying that?
They own the means of production. They seek to profit from it entirely. They fight tooth and nail to not be taxed for anything whatsoever. In what universe would they "give" us anything? If our current system demands 80 hours of work/week to afford to live a normal life then the world of AI will still demand that 80 hours of work/week, but now with new and improved Less Jobs!™©®
The future will not be a utopia. I'm thinking more cyberpunk with less technology. A lot of extremely poor people and a few megacorps.
That would require that it come with UBI, which... seems doubtful at best...
People have always asked that question about tech, my friend. You just weren't listening.
But AI is snake oil. It won't reduce work. It'll just fuck up things that currently work and let the billionaires get richer. Vaporware. That's it. That's why nobody asks about newfound free time. Cuz it's fake.
its primarly currently used an excuse to lay people off, and hire less people back if at all.
That will only happen if universal basic income is implemented. Currently, the worry is nobody will be able to afford to live
They're probably not saying that because they are too busy asking the far more important question of "If Ai takes all the jobs, how can I afford to feed and shelter the family and children I love"
You do understand why people work right? Very few people work just for funsies. They work so they can afford to eat, pay rent, pay for utilities, and be able to afford essentials like clothing, health insurance, transportation.
Almost everything we need to actually live and function costs money. You primarily get money by having a job. So if someone gets laid off, they're probably very busy trying to find another source of income so they can actually keep their children alive and healthy.
In order to work less (fewer hours or more time off), we need legislation that restricts work hours and requires companies to grant a minimum amount of time off. I agree with the sentiment that AI could free us up for more leisure, but in the absence of legislation, companies will just squeeze more productivity out of each worker without granting more leisure time.
Imagine you’re rich. You’re investing in AI, in robots. You’re not investing in people. Imagine a world without people, but machines that serve without complaining or expecting anything in return.
The rich are dangerous right now.
That's not how the economy works. Unless there's no human work to do at all, most will just be pushed out of their comfier thinking jobs into physical labor jobs.
That’s not it’s purpose. It’s purpose is to generate revenue for its owner. And to bastardize human culture. Nothing more.
i have been , hell go all the way back to Bertrand Russel, he does as well, see his treatise "In Praise of Idleness", famous economists like Maynard Keys projected we'd all be broking 15 hrs a week now for the same pay.
Productivity increases have gone to the very wealthy and we've voted for it, over decades, over and over and in the face of all that evidence ? we'd fuck in' do it again, Leopards Eating My Face is full of examples. Solutions ? there arent any, the world has to many hateful and stupid people easily led by physcopaths and grifters . Not just the US, it's near ubiquitous.
Lots of people are saying that what are you talking about? It's just not any of the Epstein class.
It’s just a tool, another piece of technology to increase efficiency with some liability.
But if such advances aren’t leading to quality of life advances for workers, that’s a societal issue sucking all the gained efficiency away, like how software uses more and more processing to do the same things as computers get faster.
It means the system is fucked up.
That's because we haven't updated our system to work with AI
AI should in theory automate the mundane so we can focus on art, instead it's being used to automate the art to avoid having to pay for it.
When AI replaces jobs, we don't celebrate not having to do the job because we only have our essentials covered when we work. We have a system that socializes the losses and privatizes the profits.
If we have Universal Basic Income, so we all got paid when AI does labor, people would be able to enjoy their lives free of stress. Unfortunately we live in a society laugh track where socialism is seen as a negative thing, as a way of rewarding the lazy at the expense of the hard working (When really that's what capitalism does)
Unless this perception of socialism can be changed, we will never get Universal Basic Income or Single Payer Healthcare
Every job lost at the expense of AI needs to be taxed and those taxes applied to UBI.