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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 157 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

So instead of blaming the system that gave us two parties, you blame the voters who had no choice but to vote for two parties?

~Sounds solid. πŸ‘~

[–] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 48 points 1 month ago (15 children)

Seriously. Someone let me know when we’re getting off the internet and rioting.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 month ago

Someone let me know when we’re getting off the internet and rioting.

I heard they were just waiting for you, man.

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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

plus it's objectively wrong as exemplified by the last election

[–] the_abecedarian@piefed.social 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

really it seems like it's blaming people for just voting & hoping, instead of organizing and building a movement. voting for the lesser evil is not enough.

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[–] Madrigal@lemmy.world 110 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Nope, it’s also a consequence of often choosing the greater evil.

And for favouring short term over long term planning.

And zero-sum thinking.

And us vs them mentality.

And a lack of critical thinking in general.

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[–] the_q@piefed.social 66 points 1 month ago

Using AI for some tepid take about evil is fucking hilarious.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 56 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Hmmm. Really seems like the government today is directly the result of not choosing the lesser evil 2 years ago.

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[–] Hubi@feddit.org 50 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)
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[–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago

Um, I'm pretty sure some of it was choosing the greater of two evils

[–] DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Jeez...I hope this plan of not voting again works out for us this time.

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[–] Major_Tsiom@fedia.io 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's just stupid... First of all, what are we supposed to do? Vote for the greater of two evils? Second, we DO vote for the greater of two evils!

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago (5 children)

OP must be Maga to think that Trump was a lesser evil than Kamala.

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[–] thevoidzero@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Not really, because if people consistently choose the lesser evil. Like if 90% voted for lesser evils, then the other party would have to change things up, or there could be a new party that would have a chance of winning because they're competing for that 90% of people and no way would the evil party win.

But no, problems isn't choosing lesser evil, it's that significant people still choose evil

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[–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Should we have chosen the greater evil?

[–] CptOblivius@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

I think we did a few times.

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[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (13 children)

I don't understand. We're bush, Nixon, Reagan and trump the lesser of 2 evils? I'm pretty sure they're the cause of the current MAGAstan government.

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[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 month ago

Pretty sure the greater of two evils won a whole bunch of times.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 26 points 1 month ago (5 children)

250 years. We've had a form of First Past the Post for as long as we've has government, and mathematically that always results in two parties, aka lesser of two evils. Without changing that, we can point fingers of blame wherever, but the people don't get a real choice.

I wonder if this sticker is on the car of someone who always voted third party or abstained? Clearly, since it's "you" and not "us", so not taking responsibility for generations of voting. Do they realize that their choice might have caused this outcome too? Probably not, since they're using a bumper sticker to blame everyone else.

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[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

well i mean were we supposed to choose the greater of two evils?

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[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (6 children)

As opposed to choosing the greater evil for a change?

The actual issue is money in politics. It's the reason no politician wants voter reform. It's why Bernie never had a chance, not just as a presidential candidate. You need preferential voting, no more electoral college and no more Senate - pro rata representation only.

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[–] TTimo@piefed.social 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's not like picking the worse evil would get you to a better place either.

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[–] lennee@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago
[–] modestmeme@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It’s also the direct result of simply not voting. It’s also the direct result of half-ass voting only on big ticket elections, not the state or primary elections.

And the alternative to lesser of two evils is f’ing what? Some third party candidate that spouts boilerplate slogans and no practical solutions?

The United States has had a long history and gone through many changes. The changes don’t happen overnight, but they happen. They just don’t happen instantly with a super perfect candidate.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (17 children)

Blaming voters when the primary cause for all of that is corporate interference in every aspect from candidate selection to gerrymandering districts to lobbying to the ads seen online and on television to the misinformation/disinformation sewed into widely accepted corporate media.

The people with money are the ones to blame. Not the pool of potential voters beaten into submission at work and propagandized into thinking a far right party and center right party are our only options.

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[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Actually we've chosen the worse of two evils about half the time.

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[–] JustPlainDave@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 month ago

Except that choosing the greater evil is what's gotten us exactly where we are. Nixon, Reagan, W, Trump = greater evil every time.

[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This isn't profound. It's actually just a dumb "both sides bad" take said by people who would snub a candidate they agree with on 70% of issues with a 50% chance of winning for a person they agree with on 90% of issues with a 5% chance of winning.

The 70% candidate losing isn't a win for your cause because now a person you agree with on 5% of issues just won.

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[–] Pollo_Jack@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Pretty sure donald was the eviler of two evils. The evilist of many evils.

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[–] Kintarian@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’m pretty sure we elected the worst of all evils

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[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (15 children)

Ok then, so what's your solution? I'm still gonna vote for the lesser evil, while still organizing and doing direct action, to reduce harm unless presented with an alternative.

Maybe a candidate that's good? You could run for an office.

Edit: essentially I mean for the situation at hand, especially with this upcoming election, what else can we do?

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[–] Scrogu@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean no. They literally chose the greater of two evils almost half the time.

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago

We as a society need to make posting AI slop as much of a taboo as, like, pissing on the side of a building. It should be something that you just don't do as a matter of decorum.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 14 points 1 month ago

Pretty sure more than half of these elections we're choosing the worse evil

[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, it's not. Bush v. Gore decided this trajectory for us, by some Supreme Court justices.

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

I have a feeling without that, the evil would have reached a lot sooner.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's the result of rich people only making shitty choices available. So sick of the victim blaming gaslighting shit.

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