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There is no greater treachery than this failure to face up to the climate crisis. How can we now fend off despair?

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[–] Arancello@aussie.zone 23 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

when i asked my MP (Labor) if we would go to war against Canada if the americans asked , he said maybe.

[–] someguy@aussie.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago

Mate, how is a Labor MP expected to answer any question definitivly without a focus group test first?

Talk about unreasonable...

[–] Seagoon_@aussie.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago

since when do local MPs answer foreign policy issues like that

and what does war and canada have to do with this?

Why stir up enmity and distrust in politicians?

[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Be fucked we would

The streets would fill with protestors

[–] Sheppa@aussie.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Just like the streets were filled with Palestine protests yet our government still contributes to a genocide.

[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Well they kinda have been

And I hate to admit this, but Australians who wouldn’t care too much about Palestine would about Canada.

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Minns is a cunt

I had low expectations of him, and yet he has still managed to disappoint me at every turn

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

He is a criminally corrupt traitor. The whole NSW party is as they chose him.

We're just a plutocracy masquerading as democracy.

[–] Shameless@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The greed in this world is sickening.

[–] Insekticus@aussie.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Me too, mate. It can be overbearing sometimes. We need to stand together, demand, and vote for a better future.

[–] arbilp3@aussie.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I agree. I also believe that younger people must get louder and focused on letting the political class know they've had enough of the crap that is going to make their future much more difficult (as well as the rest of the world's). They are too polite, imv.

A short while ago I saw some news from France where High School students are rioting because of the decaying state of their education system and facilities. While I wouldn't want young people to get so violent here, kids have a right to demand their country's leaders (especially in a rich country like Australia) stop playing with their lives and that of even younger children for the sake of heartless and ruthless pragmatism.

[–] Seagoon_@aussie.zone 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I suggest young people enter politics, stand for election, join political parties, become more than protestors , participate in government at all levels

[–] arbilp3@aussie.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Left-wing parties are a safer bet but a lot of young people think the whole political system is compromised. Look for example at LEAN, the environment group in Labor. Their position is sidelined by the party bosses.

[–] Seagoon_@aussie.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

The think that because of social media bombing by foreign adversaries

[–] Seagoon_@aussie.zone -1 points 2 weeks ago

it's a matter of scale

I expect people want nice clothes, a nice car, electronics, a nice home

is that greed? It's not.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

What year is this?

[–] arbilp3@aussie.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago

There is no greater treachery than this failure to face up to the climate crisis. How can we now fend off despair?

By supporting the young to find their voice and those of us who are older and are just as disgusted to raise our voices with them against the rot that has overtaken the world order (including here in Australia where we dance to the same tune).

[–] taygaloocat@leminal.space 4 points 2 weeks ago

Well, they're allowing an existing coal mine to continue operating. It's not good, but it's not like they're constructing a whole new coal mine.

Renewables are becoming economically superior, and like it or not the Australian government (at least under Labor) is doing a fair bit to push the country towards renewables at a steady pace. We're even doing better than New Zealand.

Check it out: climateactiontracker.org

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I wonder who owns that coalmine? I thought it would be BlackRock or JP Morgan et al, but it may be worse than that.

Like, the final owner. It says "Glencore" (a Swiss multinational conglomerate) and "Yancoal" officially (DDG search), but look? Yancoal is owned by "Yankuang Energy Group", which is owned by China.

China wants to mine in Australia, Swiss conglomerate has seconded (I've read the Swiss were masters of laundering money and tax evasion, is that still true?), and here we are.

Do this with similar news stories as you wish, even publicly available information can be interesting. Why doesn't the story just say it was owned by China and Swiss conglomerate? Why do you have to look up owner after owner after owner after owner? The Guardian can look up ownership just like me, yeah?

I bet I know. I think if I could dig deep enough, I'd find that The Guardian is owned by China/Swiss conglomerate, just a few shell companies removed.

I have absolutely NO proof of this. But I do know that if I owned "Yangkuang Coal" and China was my "friend" and the sky is the limit on spending and all of that money is tax free in Switzerland conglomerate... am I being paranoid? Tell me if I'm paranoid and I'm being weird

Sorry for tangent, but the fact that they barely bother to hide it any longer is disturbing to me I wish they'd put a little more effort into coverup

[–] themaninblack@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Really trying to understand how such a system exists that statewide bodies in NSW and VIC have both overridden the local councils and allowed McDonald’s to put in restaurants in Newtown and Northcote respectively.

[–] alexquiniou@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

Pikachu face They not like us They don't care about us

[–] Seagoon_@aussie.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

we need the coal mine to power the new EVs bought every 100 seconds

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There's a Tesla driving around in Brisbane with the number plate 'COAL FED'. The owner is clearly a keen fan of irony. :)

[–] Seagoon_@aussie.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

There is a huge disconnect in people's brains,

when was the last time you read or heard the phrase 'fossil fuel'? it's now electricity versus petrol, but they are both the same thing, both contribute to global climate change

so stop buying cars, all cars are built with plastics ( which are made with fossil fuels ) and steel and all cars are powered by fossil fuels

don't buy cars, walk, ride bikes, catch mass transit

and stop paving the world , it causes global climate change, run off that causes flooding, and kills the soil

go plant a tree

[–] YeahToast@aussie.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There's not a huge disconnect, there's a lack of services. If I was to catch public transport to work it would take ~60 minutes, it's a 12 minute drive. It's currently not a practical option.

[–] Seagoon_@aussie.zone -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The huge disconnect is thinking electric cars are good/green

also, I suggest you choose to live closer to work,

[–] YeahToast@aussie.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Live closer to work? Than a 12 minute drive ? ? What?

Electric cars are not perfect, but are an improvement on internal combustion engines.

[–] Seagoon_@aussie.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

yes, within walking distance, within cycling distance, closer to good public transport

campaign for public transport, not for cars

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago

Also, electric cars cause traffic congestion and fatalities just the same as petrol ones.

[–] Seagoon_@aussie.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

we could always build a nuclear power station, but the building takes energy and resources

[–] G_M0N3Y_2503@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

GHG emissions from the Project will contribute to climate change, with 98% of these emissions occurring in overseas jurisdictions where the product coal is consumed.

the Commission has imposed conditions intended to limit coal exports to jurisdictions that have policies for reducing greenhouse gas emissions consistent with the goals of the Paris Agreement.

The Project’s domestic emissions have also been conditioned, including requirements for minimisation and offsets

So it's an extension on an existing mine that is only allowed to sell to consumers that have agreed to reduce emissions? And the emissions that Australia will be responsible for is 2% of the project?

With renewables becoming a no brainer outside of steel production I'm surprised that they bothered applying. As long as they also pay their fair share of taxes and are paying their workers appropriately, this feels more like a Good luck kind of thing rather than betrayal per se.

https://www.ipcn.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/2026-09/Statement%20of%20Reasons%20for%20Decision%20HVO%20Continued%20Operations%20Project%20%28SSD%2011826681%20%26%20SSD%2011826621%29.pdf.pdf