I don't see many people mention Osmium. Does anyone have any experience with it?
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Sooner people quit using discord the better. Crazy how many people jumped on.
Good. Fuck it off
Perhaps open source projects should stop using it as a replacement for forums
Short, instant and hidden seems to be winning over anything else.
Did you drop an /s or is a publicly searchable record of tech knowledge not what devs want?
Problem is that it's not archivable. Tech discord servers are like that and it's really annoying.
Me in 2002: "Wow this IRC thing is pretty sweet, I bet people in 2026 will still be using it and it will be even better."
People in 2026: "I just cannot live without six different closed source, bloated, expensive, corporate versions of IRC which are somehow worse in every imaginable way than IRC was in 2002."
quake mapping community in 2026:
"Download and support documentation are in our Discord!"
did irc have voice/video/screensharing?
Preserved history between sessions is really the only thing IRC was truly missing.
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“I am legit probably going to close my servers and delete my account after all this,”
Oh by gods just fucking do it! All year I've had friends say shit like this, but then it turns out me and one friend of mine were the only ones with the balls to do it.
We set up a Matrix server for everyone, but then the excuses come rolling in, and they're still going "I will close down my Discord account...! If it gets any worse..."
Edit: anyway, they're not my friends anymore. I had hoped they were better people. They certainly talk like better people.
Many people are exhausted, lazy, do not actually have any real principles or discipline, and are unwilling to endure inconvenience.
Unreliable entitled self-centered hypocrites.
I am glad you realized your former friends were lacking in character. It sucks to lose friends, but in the long run, bad people will just drag you down to their own level of miserable mediocrity.
It's hard to leave when a huge chunk of your interpersonal connections are tangled in its web. It's the same reason Facebook and Twitter still exist.
That's part of the reason why these platforms have such high valuations per capita, opposed to non- or less-social apps. There's a lot of momentum.
I host a Matrix server myself and even I still use Discord more because that's where people are. Matrix has its own issues and, frankly, it's a shitshow; discord offers a lot of features with better UX and it has a lot of people.
The only reason Skype and team speak died* was because Discord provided a better value. Now it has the momentum, and the only way it will die is if something else offers even more value. Enshitification helps shift, but the momentum fights against it; momentum is like a small multiplier on top of its feature value.
Even if the app enshitifies, even if their base value drops; the product is still larger because of the userbase. So it becomes a chicken and egg problem. Until an inflection point is hit, their sheer mass buys them room to enshittify.
People who can walk away early are the exception, not the rule. It's why people still use Reddit more than Lemmy. I may get some hate for this, but I don't think the people on Lemmy are inherently "better." There are selection biases, and I'm sure that holds true by some metrics, but not in totality.
"If everyone accelerated at the same time, there wouldn't be a traffic jam" is true, but that's not how the world or its people work; you just need to come to terms with that before you can do anything about it.
Edit: speech to text typos. Probably missed some.
Matrix has its own issues and, frankly, it’s a shitshow;
For what it's worth, I use it daily with no significant trouble.
I guess it depends on your usage patterns.
My complaints are mostly about UX and privacy. If all you need is simple messaging, it works fine if not just a little clunky. I hate signal as far as I'm concerned it's basically a sigint op; but I'd usually recommend it if the simple messaging case is all you care about.
For matrix, the client landscape is a clusterfuck and feature adoption is lousy at best. How those features are communicated to a user is plainly bad, or lacking even in the best cases.
Use element and try to make a voice call with your friends: Is it encrypted? How do you know? Is it only the one-on-one call or is the Jitsi group encrypted too? Just TLS or e2e and when can your homeserver or other federated servers see? What about video streams? message reactions? Are media attachments? On disk? Has there been any work at all towards obfuscating or otherwise protecting metadata? What relays are being used and for what features? On and on and on.
All of these questions have answers. The problem is that they are communicated very differently and the answers vary per feature, per client, per room.
I vaguely remember, when I was testing clients, a one-to-one call had encryption drop silently because the other client didn't support it, and there was no visual signal of that fact in the app at all. Frankly, it's just disturbing.
And that's just the technical things that I care about, that I don't want to dig into the source code or pull out wireshark for. Normies care less, but will get tripped up by the recovery key and verification systems before even having to worry about that. Not to mention that the key hygiene of most people is absolutely terrible. Even some of my very technical sysadmin friends wind up with a bunch of unused device identities in their chains; some clients don't even show them at all.
/matrix rant
But yeah it's a fine substitute for discord if you're willing to give up some features. With a good home server, it can be pretty painless day-to-day.
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The issue is many groups only have a presence on Discord, like community groups. I'm part of a couple local communities, and there's no way you're going to get hundreds of people to migrate over without something that affects functionality in a major way finally prompting people to make the switch.
This feels relevant for those people
Maybe, but I think it really boils down to convenience and ease of use. People will stick around until the pain of moving to a new platform is less than the pain of staying there.
I'm privileged enough and it doesn't negatively affect me personally, so why should I care
I think it really boils down to convenience and ease of use
Yes. I agree. Lol.
People will stick around until the pain of moving to a new platform is less than the pain of staying there
Another one for you. Basically, it's gas prices for the individualists:
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This comic is referring to holding positions in political context where there is an active genocide being perpetrated by the US on 2 fronts both in Gaza and at home via ICE detention centers. Comparing it to people who are struggling to find a rellacement for a chat app because of age verification is either a gross misue of your ability to comprehend analogy, or you really see consumption on par with mass violence and terrorism.
Maybe you need to sit this out for a bit.
Using Discord is giving your data to AI for its training and to the American government, which is enacting all these terrible things. Ergo, staying on Discord because going onto Matrix is mildly inconvenient is taking a privileged and complacent political stance.
Even if America wasn't doing these things and Discord wasn't feeding your data to them, using Discord with their they AI scanning all your messages and activities is still being tolerant towards authoritarian surveillance.
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And Matrix isn't the only option out there
and good ole IRC
More fragmentation isn't really a selling point of alternatives to a market player with a big critical mass and network effects.
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It also says that 90 percent of Discord users won’t have to bother with age verification thanks to its age estimation system.
If you believe this...
I stepped away from Discord months ago and I must admit, I haven't found a good replacement yet. And if it is decent, no one else I know will jump on it.
Its frustrating.
(I know someone may feel compelled to offer a solution by pointing me towards a Discord-like. I assure you, I've already tried or looked into it.)
I have been successfully using sharkord. Its getting better and better. Easier to setup then fluxer, IMHO.
It’s not quite ready yet but Fluxer is trying to be a drop in replacement for discord with self hosted options. I’m just waiting for it to be a bit more ready and stable before I jump ship, but as soon as they glance my way with age verification I’ll probably jump early
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90% of the reason I'm still on discord is that's where my oldschool RuneScape clan is
My friend group moved to Steam groups, which... Isn't a great replacement.
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