Hard disagree, but if you're enjoying it then more power to ya.
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Disagree strongly. My trusty old 65" LG C1 is considerably better for 2D games than any VR headset I've tried. It has better colors, deeper contrast, brighter HDR, higher resolution, higher refresh rate. (And before you say something about the spyware, my LG has never had an internet connection so I don't worry about it.)
If you usually game on an older, smaller IPS or TN monitor (less than 30"), I can understand why you would say something like like this. In that case a VR headset would be a major upgrade for you, just from the increase in perceived display size, along with a better refresh rate & response time. But if you have a decent-sized gaming OLED, then it's no competition. The gaming display wins every time over most VR hesdsets.
For me, the only thing I use my VR headset for is for VR porn and VR games. Everything else gets enjoyed on the TV.
I'm farsighted. I can't imagine the headaches I'd get using vr
It doesn't really work that way because of the lenses. Your vision works the same both in and out of VR.
Gonna need my keyboard for satisfactory
I understand the appeal, but the discomfort of prolonged headset wearing and the lower detail adds up, idk. But my experience is limited to the index, which is much heavier than the frame
Two monitors is hard to beat. One for satisfactory modeler and one for satisfactory
Edit: there are mods out there to make satisfactory an actual vr game btw
I'd be interested to hear if you're still doing this a year from now. I'm a huge VR nerd, to the extent that when I first got VR in like 2019 I didn't have even the slightest inclination to play anything non-VR anymore and I gave away my consoles. I didn't go back to any flat-screen gaming for over a year. The meta quest has actually had multiple ways to do pretty solid remote desktop for years now, and I also have a dongle that lets me connect any HDMI source and play on a massive virtual screen. I've used these things a couple of times, but I always prefer just using a normal screen or TV. I have a headstrap that makes my VR headset very comfy and I have no problem playing for hours at a time, but for flat screen gaming, I don't want to have to wear something on my head. I've seen many people expressing excitement for using the steam frame this way, but I have to assume it's mostly people new to VR and they probably won't stick with it, but maybe I'm wrong.
I'm a big VR nerd as well, but I always saw it as a medium adjacent to flat gaming, not a substitute or upgrade, so I've pretty much always bounced between the two since the Vive. I am excited for the Frame's potential as a portable desktop, but I don't hold any illusions of that being something I'll regularly use beyond traveling and hotel stays, lazy days in bed, etc. I imagine most people will land in that area once the newness wears off.
Then again, I'm privileged to have lots of tech and no family members competing for it. I could see someone in different circumstances making the Frame their main gaming device for both flat and VR games, even though that feels as weird to me as the idea of people using the Steam Deck as their main AAA game device, which also definitely happens.
I always saw it as a medium adjacent to flat gaming, not a substitute or upgrade
Yeah I'd say that's about where I'd put myself these days. I probably still play a bit more VR than traditional flat games, but I'd agree that now I see it more as different way of doing basically the same thing instead of that first year where I was convinced I'd never go back. The opportunity to give away some pretty sweet gifts was also a big part of why I gave away the consoles. I didn't think I'd miss them, but I eventually came back around and repurchased some older ones for myself. Nothing from current gen though.
I guess the fact that I was never much into using VR for virtual displays just surprised me a bit because of how otherwise obsessed with the medium I am. I've done it several times, and while it works well and I don't really have anything bad to say about it, I just never went back after trying any particular game once or twice. I'm sure I'd feel differently if I traveled a lot or had to compromise with other people on who gets to use what screen. The thing that's got me the most excited these days is all the VR mods of classic games that keep coming out. One of my favorite things to do in VR is to finally be able to experience a game I already love from that new perspective.
I’m hyper aware that I’m just a few days into it and totally new to VR, so I’m actually interested as well in how long I feel this way.
I’ll provide updates.
If you didn't know we also have an active satisfactory community, we'd love to have you!
I really enjoy streaming games to my Frame, but I'm not big on using the controllers for flat games. The Steam Controller + Steam Frame combo is excellent though
The back/underside paddle buttons on the Steam Controller are way better than they are on the Steam Deck in ways that are tough to describe, so I’ve found myself using them a lot. Being able to essentially squeeze to activate my jetpack or reload my gun, depending on which hand, really made it easier for me to get around and engage in combat in Satisfactory.
I think it’s because the “handles” on the controller are quite a bit meatier than the side handles of the Deck. My second and ring finger seem to slot perfectly onto them.
it sucks because after I got my deck I was hoping for a next gren of vr like this but then my resources dried up while concurrently tech components exploded in cost. this was something I was going to get.
Awesome setup OP!
Quick PSA to anyone reading, "XR" glasses like the Viture or XREAL offerings paired with an awesome project called breezy-desktop (https://github.com/wheaney/breezy-desktop) also provide an excellent experience, and the glasses can be found for around $300-400. I played a decent amount of STALKER 2 with them and it was great.
Even in the early days with a Vive, I found games like Crypt of the Necrodancer and Hollow Knight to be weirdly immersive in VR mode.
I think it's the blocking out of the outside world that did it for me, plus who cares about the old screen door effect when it's pixel graphics?
Iirc, there is also a way to play old emulated games in a made up 1990s bedroom on a CRT in VR, but I can't remember how.
(And on the topic of emulation, I also wonder if they ever made progress on the emulated Dolphin VR games? Star Fox was a fantastic experience but was still a bit glitchy a decade ago.)
emulated games in a bedroom
That would be EmuVR
Satisfactory doesn't have a VR mode? Kind of surprising, VR modes are easy AF to do.
UEVR works with it, and there's a mod to make the controls more VR native. Still struggling to get that all working on my Linux install, though
I honestly don’t know if I could handle a jumping 5x stinger in VR. Those things are scary as fuck on a TV screen 10 feet in front of me.