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Janitor works quietly in the background making the world around them slightly better whilst getting paid about as little as legally possible.
CEOs loudly ruin the world around them whilst making more than 100x what the janitor makes (and that's just their salary)
I certainly know who I'd want rid of.
I feel like 100x is way way lowballing that CEO.
100x would require some sort of hypercommunist wage equality regulation
Try to have the company run for a week without the janitor and 1 week without the CEO, and everybody would tell you who's doing the most important job.
Know you meant this as rhetorical, but I can speak from my own experience.
Our janitor went on leave for a week without replacement, I can sure tell you I missed them by the end of that week.
Meanwhile in an old SME job, our CEO left for an entire fortnight to some corporate BS, and genuinely the only tell was the managers being more friendly and relaxed.
It'd be fun to actually have a study to point to. Feels like the type of thing people cloud try.
I think it would be difficult to do it in good faith because the CEOs can subtlely fuck with the results on both ends. Like order other non-janitors to pick up some of the more urgent cleaning/maintenance work to make them seem less important (or maybe offer secret bonuses to people to "just clean up because they like to be helpful" or something). Also order their own subordinates to do crazy (but reversible) things while the CEO is away.
The same thing I'd expect them to do for experiments with alternate economic systems, sabotage the shit out of it so they can say "see, this won't work!"
We should make a public holiday, "guillotine a CEO day", and each year, the public chooses their least favorite CEO, and they get guillotined.
Need a full March Madness style bracket. Musk is a clear front runner, but Zuck could give him a run for his money. Any of the Ellisons could be a dark horse.
The entire Ellison family is made up of wildcards. The Sackler family is full of heavyweights too
Had me thinking hypotheticals, that (even before jumping to executions) if there was just an ancient Greek style 10-year ostracism and/or seizure of property that people vote on, it might compel CEOs to start behaving more in the public interest.
But the cynic in me can't help but feel that it would more likely lead to the CEOs who control the media getting to collectively determine who gets to be that year's fall guy, running non-stop hit pieces on them while covering up their own misdeeds.
Yeah... the thing about actually implementing something like this is you actually need to seize power first because obviously the ruling class isn't going to just go along with their own torment. And if you've already seized power, you can skip the games and straight up take all their money and spend it on public goods.
Every year, take the 500 wealthiest people and...
You can tell a lot about someone by how they treat people that work the lower wage occupations.
Cashiers, entry level customer service or other entry level desk jobs, entry level blue collar work. All of those people are hard working members of society who contribute so much despite how little they get paid in return and I don't want anything to do with anyone who doesn't treat them with respect and kindness.
Security is like this. I work unarmed security, and people will sometimes treat me like a sentient security camera. I am a person, I promise.
Sending hugs!
Can you give some examples of interactions that you would prefer to happen, and what would initiate those interactions? I typically avoid interacting with security. When I was working retail, people would attempt to strike up a conversation to distract me while their accomplice was waiting to steal stuff. So I feel like if I walked over to them for no reason then they'd actually be more stressed out.
These interactions aren't in a retail setting, and the company I work for has never sent me to a retail setting, thankfully. One of them involves sitting at the front of a building that has a bunch of businesses in it and the other one I am at the front desk of a data center. A lot of times when you work security you're basically a receptionist that goes on hourly patrols.
I recently had a woman try to secretly film me because I was browsing Lemmy at work. I looked up almost immediately because I have peripheral vision and saw her doing so. She panicked and quickly shut the door she had opened a crack to spy on me. The fact that I looked up immediately when she was being weird proved I was being attentive. I'm only ever on my phone when there's no one around.
Shortly after that they updated the site orders to say you can't be on personal electronic devices. You're expected to sit in an empty room for 7 out of the 8 hours of this shift and stare at the fuckin wall, apparently.
At the data center people will bang on the window if you don't buzz them in within 5 seconds of them getting to the front door. I've politely asked them to give me some time to notice them before they scare the shit out of me by banging on the glass. It's like being a fish in an aquarium. One guy didn't even respond to my request, he just rolled his eyes then walked away, then called my company to complain. I am no longer allowed to ask people to stop hitting the glass.
All this shit is dehumanizing. It's like they don't really want humans to be security guards, they want robots and had to settle for me.
Thanks for letting me rant a bit : )
I guess they'll be waiting even longer for you to get the door then?
That does sound pretty hard to deal with. Hopefully a better opportunity will present itself to you sooner than later. Are you allowed to listen to music, audiobooks, podcasts or such, maybe with a single earbud? Some YTers like Technology Connections make videos that can be listened to without looking at the screen. VAS Aviation is another one.
When I'm out riding my bike (usually later, to beat the heat) there are a few commercial buildings I pass by that are under construction. And there are people sitting alone in vehicles all night keeping an eye on things (probably to prevent copper theft, homeless trashing it, etc). I've often wondered if they're bored out of their minds and would appreciate conversation, but I've never stopped just in case it alarms them.
there are people sitting alone in vehicles all night keeping an eye on things (probably to prevent copper theft, homeless trashing it, etc). I've often wondered if they're bored out of their minds and would appreciate conversation, but I've never stopped just in case it alarms them.
Can confirm, those jobs will slowly eat away at your soul. At first it's easy money, but I noticed after a while my mental health was really going downhill. So glad I don't do those kind of jobs any more, podcasts only help so much lol
Janitors clean up everyone's shit.
CEOs make shit for everyone.
I actually respect the Janitor though, I'd never treat them equally
Everyone looks at the CEO. People should be looking at the board of directors.
What is the difference?
The board employs the CEO to execute their direction. The e CEO answers to the board. The board represents shareholders/owners.
They are all members of the same club though.
TLDR: The CEO is the captain but the board is the admiralty.
The CEO is the face of the company. The board of directors is the what actually sets company policy and usually has the power to remove the CEO if they aren't managing the company the way they want.
CEOs may agree with the board's vision but if you want to know who's pushing anti-human policy you should look first at the board. They choose the CEO and they can remove them with a vote.
There are many people that we don't see in the news everyday that sit on multiple boards and direct policy across industries. When a firm or bank buys out a controlling interest in a company's public stock they usually put someone on the company's board. Why do you think a United CEO getting killed didn't slow UHC down all that much? The CEO is a face, a captain, but the board are the admirals. CEOs aren't without blame. They usually have freedom of implementation but they are always acting with oversight of some kind from the board.
It's easy to point at the CEO because it's one person, but really if you want to make any kind of lasting change you need to target the people who are sitting on multiple boards and pushing the anti-human policy.
The board of directors is also chosen by the shareholders and typically the entities with the most stock to vote aren't people (or at least aren't good people.) Think of anyone who could have the money to buy a controlling share of a major publicly traded company.
Circling back, The CEO is the company face, The board is the interface between the company and the rich unknowns. Usually those unknowns are other organizations that have controlling stock. It gets incestuous pretty fast.
Thank you for the long explanation, I had no idea about this :)
And the board works for... Boomers. Seriously.
Majority of the US is owned by old people and boomers are such a wealthy class, they outweigh the billionaire class 8 to 1 (though there is a lot of overlap). People over 55 own 52% of all assets from real estate to cash to stock.
Boomers and their 401ks and pensions need to be a target too. It's a natural consequence of an aging society: the young need to work more and keep less so the old don't have to work.
That's fair but also keep in mind that the most accurate statement is that it works for 'the shareholders' and over time 'the shareholders' have become less and less people and more and more entities that are holding the stock. Various Funds, Institutions, and other organizations. It's a democratic council that is dictated by whoever holds the majority of voting shares. When we talk about millions of shares more often than not the voting majority is housed in one way or another within an institution. It's not 'A' boomer, it's a management fund holding the retirement portfolio of thousands of boomers if not just another company that managed to secure 15% or more of voting weight.
I push back because the focus should always be on the system and on the wealthy class. Not the demographic of some retired asshole that's benefiting from the system itself.
On the other hand, when we elect to hunt down ICE and bring them to justice the way we did Nazis complicit in the Holocaust, I anticipate the custodial service that cleaned their bathrooms and offices will not be excluded.
That’s a horrible thing to wish for a janitor
I've met a hell of a lot of well-meaning, nearly endearing janitors.
I've also met a few that i'm fairly certain they're pedos.
~30% of people would be if they could get away with it. Just look at the privileged ones.
I can't imagine it's that high.
Really? I would be kind of surprised if it was that low when you consider the Epstein class. Unless there is something about becoming rich and powerful that changes you to make you that way?
It's not so much that it changes you, you have to be a shitty person to seek out that level of power and personal wealth.
I would believe that. I know there is an over representation of sociopaths that are CEOs.
Usually people that enjoy inflicting pain and suffering on others publicly do so privately.
but also becoming and staying (ultra)privileged usually requires being a terrible person
i would guillotine both. im fair that way.