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I think it's up Sep 14 to Sep 30
if you're in the US and have too much time on your hands, the comments on this one need attention, cos PBS leave comments on then just don't moderate them.
please do stop by in "new comments" mode and upvote the good top-level comments, downvote the bad, and report the racists and straight up Nazis.
the upvotes/downvotes determine the default "Top comments" view, and it takes multiple reports for any given racist
very informative, i had only a vague idea about all the weird eugenics connections, but it's a bit shocking that it apparently goes back all the way to the "founding" of silicon valley.
the usage of "ai" generated footage leaves a bitter aftertaste though. i sort of get it's used deliberately to illustrate the weirdness and sloppiness of the whole thing. but i still find it odd for a project to clearly show the myriad ways of how ai is bad, only to use it themselves. not a choice i would have made.
Not available in my country, this is anti Dutch discrimination!
is this a good documentary? first time i'm hearing about it
Every little new thing I learn about AI always makes it worse. Very informative, but wow.
This isn't the Ghost in the Machine I was thinking of when seeing the title of the post.
Yeah, I don't like that. Naming your documentary the same name as a movie from the early 90's is a choice. A confusing choice.
you mean Ghost in the Shell, the anime that was named after the 1949 philosophical concept of a ghost in the machine, which the documentary is named after? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_in_the_machine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_in_the_Machine_(1993_film)
I mean Ghost in the Machine, a movie from 1993 about a serial killer who gets struck by lightening and somehow ends up digitized and uses a digital scan of a woman's planner to stalk her and her son and attempt to kill them.
your excuse for not engaging with an important anti-AI documentary is that it reminds you of an obscure 90s B-movie that was named after the same extremely well-known philosophical concept from 1949?
That's not what I said.
What I said was I found the fact that the documentary (the first I am hearing about, by the way) has the same name as a movie that already exists and that's confusing.
I don't know why this is hard to understand. If the documentary was named "The Art of the Deal" would that not be a little confusing? Maybe even a little off putting?
anything to not have to turn on your brain and watch the fucking documentary this thread is about, I guess!
I just don‘t understand how this fucking guy kept doubling down on fucking nothing. Thanks for letting this continue for as long as it did
maybe it's a bad part of me to encourage but i'll be damned if I weren't giggling the whole thread
I was so curious to see if they’d fucking get it but no
their history of posting on Fuck AI and having one mid post here really made them think they could come in here, refuse to engage with the topic of the thread, and quadruple down on uhh the anti-AI documentary being unwatchable because it reminds them of a movie only they watched
Gotta admit I was sure they meant GiTS at first. Otherwise I would have gone with Maximum Overdrive or Lawnmower Man or something
they dug in so hard about it being that specific obscure movie that I’m pretty sure they were trying to derail the discussion into a weird argument instead of, you know, anything related to the documentary
most popular sci fi of 1993, how dare a philosopher name mind-body dualism after such a classic
The 1993 movie was kinda popular back in the day. I think y'all need to stop overthinking what they said and just take their actual words for face value because it is confusing if you actually knew about the 1993 film and saw this post's title thinking that's what they were showing.
How is it confusing??? Do you only know about two movies?
I only know about one movie, the 2016 biopic of Jacques-Yves Cousteau, and I'm really looking forward to seeing it on IMAX this Friday. (Weird that it's suddenly in theaters again, I kind of thought it flopped, but see no need to investigate further.)
Most movies don't share the same fucking name. 🤦♂️
They literally do.
Keyword here was most. Not never.
I don't have hard data but I bet you a million gils that an overwhelming majority of movies have the same name as another movie. Let alone movies that use a pre-existing phrase as the title.
Most participants in this forum don't repeat the same drivel non-argument that someone else already got banned for insisting upon after all possible humor value was extracted at their expense.
what? there are tons of movies that share the same name, that's why you usually include a date
I think you should reconsider posting in this thread unless you’re going to watch the documentary instead of continuing the same tedious shit that got the other guy banned
Seeing as we never explicitly litigated what happened and mostly just trolled the guy: I mean it would be one thing if the guy came in and made a joke about it sharing the name with another, unrelated movie. Like, ok, sure, whatever. But guy came in specifically criticising the title of a documentary. And acting like the movie was the sole owner of the title, which as was pointed out, was almost definitely taken from the name of a thought experiment. Things get named after other things all the time! It’s fine!
Like imagine this was an instance discussing sports and doping. And Gerard posted about the documentary “Icarus” being released on youtube. Then guy comes along getting pissed and confused that the documentary shares the name with "Icarus", the seventh episode of Law & Order: Criminal Intent. Guy should just get banned for being off topic. Instead we trolled him for entertainment.
Anyway no further responses from me, don’t really know why you’re going to bat for this guy, people have been banned for less
i find this comment fascinating because i don't see what's particularly confusing about the 90's. why not the 70's?
i think you mean 2017
No, actually. I don't.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_in_the_Machine_(1993_film)
pretty sure you mean Ghost in the Shell (2017)
Pretty sure I do not.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_in_the_Machine_(1993_film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_in_the_Shell_(2017_film) I think you meant this link, that other link links to a different, unrelated movie
No. I meant exactly the link I picked. It's not about the contents of the movie or the documentary. It is about the title.
I’m just trying to be helpful, I’m like 9000% sure you meant Ghost In The Shell (2017) starring beat takeshi. You can just admit your wrong and move on
Hey now, it's possible that they meant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ghost_in_the_Shell_(2026_TV_series)
You're being a dick. And a troll so far as I can tell.
So everything that exists must have different names? It's very common for things of all kinds to have the same name, no matter if they're at all related or not. And it's obviously much less of a "problem" when they're not related and in completely different categories.
You're being mad over absolutely nothing.