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[–] jumjummy@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

ITT a bunch of ml users complaining about how the two party system and first past the post voting sucks. Yeah, it does, but in the reality we live in, once the general election came up and your choices were Trump, Harris, 3rd party, or don’t vote, all choices save one helped Trump.

Cry and whine all you want, but that was the reality of the world in November 2022.

Then again, I doubt many of the ml users can even vote in the US elections due to not being actual US citizens, or maybe even human.

Anyone bringing up Gaza better be bringing up the deaths as a result of Trump’s cuts to USAid since that’s a significantly bigger number of deaths from a policy that the Democrats would absolutely have not implemented. Odd that I never hear these ml users mentioning those stats…

[–] dubs@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Anyone bringing up Gaza better be bringing up the deaths as a result of Trump’s cuts to USAid since that’s a significantly bigger number of deaths from a policy that the Democrats would absolutely have not implemented. Odd that I never hear these ml users mentioning those stats…

Probably because they were trying to educate you on the deaths that Biden and Obama caused by bombing the shit out of kids. Or the number of people that they sent to torture prisons. Or the massive amounts of people they deported with no trial. Or the amount of people that they put in prisons. Odd that I never hear .world users mentioning those stats...

Why would they mention those stats? They're having too much fun virtue signaling while having bottomless mimosas at brunch.

[–] farmgineer@nord.pub 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Converted from litres -> US gallon and from JPY -> USD, we're at about $4.15/gallon for regular in my area of Japan (where having a car is required for a lot of things).

[–] TammyTobacco@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Right now diesel prices being $7 a gallon is the bigger concern. All our farming and transportation uses diesel, so all our food and goods are going to get very very expensive.

[–] farmgineer@nord.pub 2 points 3 days ago

Yep. I lived in the US until about age 30 growing up in the countryside with family and friends in farming, trucking, and more. It's ugly. Fertilizer is also largely from petrochem which is going to hurt in many countries

[–] fake@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Japan has national reserves left for a little while yet, maybe up to 6 months at the current rate. I don't think people realise just how car centric Japan is though.

[–] farmgineer@nord.pub 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I'm pretty sure the government has a rule that keeps it under 170 JPY/litre but, yeah, that's going to stop being possible eventually.

We need a lot of diesel as well for trucking and farming (edit: and forestry and because plenty of rural trains still run on diesel). Diesel is still cheaper than regular gasoline here for the moment. If that goes off, we're in trouble.

I've already bought enough oil for my car and tractor for a while so there's that at least. I should probably fill up my spare diesel tank, but the fields have been so what I've hardly used any since I'd just sink (again).

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 days ago

We just hit 10 USD per gallon for diesel where I come from and passenger cars here are split roughly 50/50 petrol vs diesel. 95 (pretty much the same as whatever Regular is in the US, different measuring system) is 9 USD per gallon.

There are multiple EU countries who have not reduced their excise taxes on fuel like we did during COVID, who were paying roughly this price a few months ago already.

[–] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 37 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Also she wasn't pro palestine enough. I wonder how they're doing.

[–] neidu4@piefed.social 28 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Teaching dems a lesson by not voting sure paid off

[–] dubs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Who said they were teaching Dems a lesson?

That would imply they thought the Dems didn't know why they lost, which seems pretty silly since it was quite obvious.

[–] Awooooooga@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Plenty of morons on this website who still think like this. Willing to watch their country turn into a fascist dictatorship to own the libs (only more communist than most Americans are doing it)

[–] neidu4@piefed.social 3 points 4 days ago

But surely it'll work out in the end, because their specific ideology will be what will rise from the ashes, right?

[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I have some people tagged that were ferocious anti kamala, that are now criticizing Trump.

And seeming pretty reasonable whilst doing so.

I don't understand those people

They're both pretty awful, it's not that difficult to understand. Criticism of one is not praise for the other.

[–] dubs@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You don't understand how someone could be anti-genocide, or anti-empire, or anti-war no matter which candidate is pushing it?

I don't see how it's that hard, if you have principles that transcend parties.

[–] FreeAZ@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If you were actually any of those things you would have voted for the candidate that lead to less genocide, less empire and less war.

I hated Kamala too for all the reasons you listed, but I held my fucking nose and voted for her anyway because I knew any conservative was going to be worse in all those categories and Kamala had the only chance of beating him.

Not voting was the pro-genocide vote. There would be less people dead and less people in fucking concentration camps if Kamala had won.

[–] dubs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

If you were actually any of those things you would have voted for the candidate that lead to less genocide, less empire and less war.

I did vote for that candidate.

Not voting was the pro-genocide vote.

No, it was the "genocide is fine, I don't care" choice. Voting for Kamala was the pro-genocide choice. She was very clear about that.

There would be less people dead and less people in fucking concentration camps if Kamala had won.

Citation needed. She fully supported Biden when he was bombing kids, and sending immigrants to torture camps. She also said Trump was too soft on Iran.

[–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I really do wonder if any of those abstainers even understand how fucking stupid they are, two years into this shit storm.

Not that it matters, it all feels inevitable, the demos would just sell out their country too, just quieter, as loud ass idiots pull tantrums until their party is in and do this wrecking ball shit anyway. At least this way has kicked people in the ass about the state of the world, if we make it out the other end without too much injury, it might just be a better world...

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I really do wonder if any of those abstainers even understand how fucking stupid they are, two years into this shit storm.<

The abstainers still feel every bit as smug as the 3rd party vote wasters.

[–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No doubt, and I'm sure all of this is very vindicating for them.

Sigh

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well it looked like one of 'em downvoted you before I saw your response. So there you have it.

[–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The ml folk are absolutists when it comes to compromise, I admire the conviction, but the rubber doesn't quite hit the road of reality when you look at the big picture, it's fine, maybe I'm the wrong one

[–] Awooooooga@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

It's funny because they are like, a living museum exhibit of why communism turns out the way it so often does.

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

She wasn't? I wonder why?

https://nitter.kareem.one/TrackAIPAC/status/1883743688628773090

I wonder how people defending genocide are doing.

Oh we already know, considering history, that you'd be perfectly fine with it. So there's that.

What is it that you think you have accomplished by doing literally nothing?

[–] Famko@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Diesel hit prices so high in some areas that the gas stations have to change their signs to accomodate double digit prices.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/general/gas-station-signs-can-t-show-diesel-prices-anymore-and-critics-blame-trump/ar-AA2c6Ptu

“Critics” blame trump…

Everyone should blame trump.

[–] Cheebus@lemmy.world 29 points 5 days ago

To think she almost started a war with Iran, that would be devastating

[–] one_old_coder@piefed.social 17 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Brought to you by Carl's Jr.

[–] W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Carl’s Jr. Fuck you, I’m eating!

[–] LoreSoong@startrek.website 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Why do you keep saying that?

[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 2 points 3 days ago

Because they pay me every time I do, if you're so smart why don't you know that?

[–] Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You need to watch the movie to understand

[–] BurgerBaron@quokk.au 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

They certainly have, unlike you apparently because that's also a quote from the movie yet you down voted them. So, fair's fair.

Butter emails v2

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 6 points 5 days ago

Wow. That’s pretty good. The cheap gas is $4.99 here.

bOtH SiDeZ!!1!