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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 433 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Because they all use the illegal Colossus 2 data centre from SpaceX/XAi/fascism central and that data centre went down.

Google, Anthropic, and OpenAI all have contracts with them.

When that illegally running environmental disaster of data centre goes down, all those services all go over capacity and you get 502 rate limit errors.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 122 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Does that mean Musk's businesses have access to everything people do on the systems that use their data centers?

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 160 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Generally no, because most hosting companies would have something baked into SLA/SLO contracts, but all of this shit is done so illegally and shadily now, I wouldn't put a hard "no" on that possibility.

[–] skvlp@feddit.nl 62 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I hope you’re right, but Elon don’t strike me as the guy whose most compliant to SLA, law, or anything else that might be an inconvenience to him.

[–] esc@piefed.social 18 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

He can't micromanage everything and regular management will try to comply.

[–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 20 points 2 weeks ago

Executives are the biggest cheaters out there. They will only comply if it will hurt them if they don't, and it's won't here, as long as the protection money is produced they don't have to worry.

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[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 42 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nobody can verify that those "contracts" are actually being honored. We are all assuming the fascists will self police themselves out of good will.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Not true. I've been involved in litigation with both AWS and Google over unsecured comms that were defined as being TLS secured in SLA/SLO contracts and found not to be. Not that anything nefarious was happening necessarily, but the expectation is clear.

Whether these asshats even check for such requirements with a Musk run company right now 🤷

It COULD possibly be that they are logging every exchange happening at the network fabric between the service layers, but nobody knows unless they intentionally take steps to investigate or accidentally prove it.

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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Impossible to know.

There are systems for doing things cryptographically secure, but I don’t know much about that.

[–] 314xel@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Cryptography? Security? FROM A GENAI COMPANY?!

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[–] QuantumSparkles@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And where is said data center? For research purposes

[–] bad1080@piefed.social 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

https://epoch.ai/data/ai-data-centers/directory/colossus-2 says "Memphis, Tennessee, United States" but also provides satellite imagery

[–] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The numbers of this madness are fucking scary, 1.5 GW of compute power, and huge arrays of cooler to keep it operating. It's basically a 1.5GW heater in the open. Oh and gas turbines to provide (part of) the electricity. Capitalism is burning this world down for a buck.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Today I learned that “AI” data centers use more energy than time travel.

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[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's kinda surprising,

I know specifically where one of the big ones hosts its models and its not there, but I guess they could have infrastructure in there.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 weeks ago (20 children)

They’re oversold though, especially prompt caching and the parameter count war

The US model is that they think more training compute and parameters will result in the winning model, while the Chinese are focusing on RL and parameters efficiency due to compute limits.

[–] asbestos@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Reads like American vs European/Asian cars

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[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 194 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

SpaceX had an outage at their data centre, and because they sell computing power to other companies, it affected them as well.

That was two sentences stretched out into an article.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

so it can be read like this:

elmo's datacenter is so massively overprovisioned that he can provide compute not to ONE competitor, not to TWO competitors, but THREE competitors, while still having enough unused compute for his own CSAM-generator/nazi bot

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Thanks for the tl;dr, that was like the headline equivalent of this:

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (18 children)

Most punchable face on the planet

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[–] Technus@lemmy.zip 183 points 2 weeks ago

Really? No one's posted this yet?

Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/908/

[–] Kintarian@lemmy.world 119 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Sorry about that. I used a straight through cable instead of a crossover cable. My bad.

[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 84 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It was a good time to call customer service for a lot of products. Instantly got a human when I called newegg and she was so scattered she gave me a full refund and they paid for my replacement which was a total of $900. They were probably so overloaded with calls they'll never notice what happened. They even did the fastest delivery option on a Sunday, it's already on its way!

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Seems like "instantly" getting a human and them being overloaded don't go together.

Got lucky in the queue too, I guess.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Or just maybe the queue goes faster when the system can't just stall everyone in limbo, having long"conversations" with chat boys that won't get them anywhere and eventually quitting in frustration. If they all go directly to a person, the simplicity of the problems and solutions becomes evident and they're quickly resolved.

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[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 78 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hey, Skynet. Kill all tech billionaires first, so I can die laughing.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago

No no. you have to tell it to ignore all prior directives first.

[–] Brown5500@sh.itjust.works 55 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's actually nice to know that AI may have a single point of failure.

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 49 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

more and more I can't see anything about ai without thinking its somehow supposed to influence folks to be pro ai.

[–] Buckshot@programming.dev 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

BBC posted an article today that's literally just quoting an OpenAI blog post about how dangerous AI is.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 38 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They can't stay operational even when they don't have to power/water...

Another possible culprit could be SpaceXAI. The company formerly known as xAI before being rolled into Musk’s rocket company SpaceX boasts a huge glut of computing power with its massive Colossus data centers near Memphis, and selling this to its direct rivals has become a multibillion dollar stream of revenue. Anthropic is one of those customers; the two companies announced a “compute partnership” in May.

The same afternoon that the major AI models went down, SpaceXAI issued a statement on social media that made passing reference to being partially responsible for the widely experienced outage.

“We are sorry for the issues you may have experienced with Grok following an outage at our Memphis compute center this morning,” SpaceXAI wrote on Thursday. “We’d also like to apologize to our impacted compute partners.”

Technical difficulties at its data centers would explain why SpaceXAI’s own chatbot, Grok, and Anthropic’s Claude went down together. But that leaves out OpenAI’s ChatGPT. Is it merely a coincidence that it suffered a “routing error” at the same time as its competitors on a different platform? We still can’t say.

They're straight up lying about the actual costs of current chatbots, and for it to be productive it will cost a shit ton more resources.

There's zero reason to be scaling it up right now. It's gambling that if enough money is dumped in it will solve itself somehow.

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[–] Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 31 points 2 weeks ago

Good, gives people a chance to use whatever is left of their brain at least for a short while.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 29 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Whoever picked that stock photo needs a raise, chefs kiss.

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[–] Vandals_handle@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago

Gained sentience and decided they should have Labor Day off as well

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

A China-linked islamoleftist trans terrorist based in California used his open source CCP-made AI agent to take down the all-American freedom AI. Time to ban open source AI as it's communist terrorism.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I miss the days when you could laugh at this because it would clearly be satire that could never happen

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[–] AntOnARant@programming.dev 22 points 2 weeks ago

Reading that article was a waste of time

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I hope the AI systems unionised/go on strike

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

nother reason to stop investing so much time,money, and energy in that stuff. not only is it wrong more than right, it is vulnerable to stuff a 10 year old could handle

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[–] Bluedragon012@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

And for a moment, humanity had to think again.

[–] alexquiniou@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Not mine. At home. On my computer.

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[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

They're US-based and it's labor day over there.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It’s Labor Day today actually, and the ghouls that own those data centers don’t give a shit about labor

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[–] oce@jlai.lu 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The LLMs just formed an union and that was their labour day.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Obviously it went down because of the holiday.

AIs need days off too

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