It's an audio issue. That never happened in thr early 2000s such as in Lord of the Rings which is weird when you think about the things that have regressed.
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Background Music: destroys your eardrums
Brit Lowtalker Villain: we gunna mumbly the wumbky aintwe guvnah
I spent 2K on a capable surround to be able to hear my damned tv.
The downmix to stereo is 90% of the problem. They don't normalize the channels, Front channel is always low, rear channels are always WAY too high. mumble mumble mumble, mumble mumble SCREEEECH CRASH BANG BANG mumble mumble
I think the TV vendors do it so you'll buy their soundbar.
Center Channel / Voices + 5, rear channels -2 and you can actually hear your damned movie.
It's a slippery slope. Listening to a bunch of podcasts while driving will fix that.
I've been learning a new language for a while and I fell into the trap of watching things with (target language) subtitles. This resulted in me getting pretty good at reading the language, but not comprehending spoken word.
Podcasts while driving/walking definitely helped me break the cycle, 10/10 recommend.
I'm re-watching Memento and I'm like "damn, I can hear what everybody is saying clearly." Clearly Nolan wasn't born deaf.
Also, I'm straight, but why didn't Guy Pearce become the hottest male actor in history?
His casting in subsequent Nolan films has been blocked by some Hollywood dickhead apparently. Who knows.
the only good subtitles were the ones on one of the Ghost in the Shell releases - these were fucking closed captions and they featured every single sound and they cycled at breakneck speed and it was a lot of fun to randomly catch some "loud screech" caption
I was watching a Chernobyl documentary. When there were Russian speakers with subtitles already provided, the cc settings added "SPEAKING IN A FOREIGN LANGUAGE" over the useful text. I know a bit of Russian and was able to follow. Still duh
Watching 'The Mummy' on streaming the other day... Unless subtitles were switched on, the translation when anyone spoke Egyptian wasn't used. It also weirdly removed location title cards, like when there's an establishing shot and text 'Cairo, 3 months later' or something.
some of the streaming sites have changed how the subs are delivered and their own existing formatting features don't work at all anymore because they were designed for a different file type or something. roku via browser is the latest one i've noticed that on. i can't have my 200% size anymore.
I give talks and training in the accessibility space, and have literally this image when I make a point about audio processing and cognitive issues. Another example "I need to park, hold on let me turn the music down I can't see the parking spots"
Even with headphones, man. The sound departments really need an overhaul or something.
they have people who pick music, not people who mix or balance sounds.
Another perspective.
Once upon a time, it was pretty normal to watch something and not be able to pause or rewind. It was perfectly expected that you might not get every single word and you didn't really think twice about it, just like you don't think about how you miss some words in real life.
But now, we can pause, we can rewind. We can get exactly what was said and we get preoccupied with making sure we understand every single word. So captioning becomes even more critical.
Once upon a time, people in TV spoke at audible volumes. We don't live in that world anymore.
Also people watched TV. They didn't have the TV on while they scrolled on their phones and didn't pay much attention. I'm sure that not concentrating on what's happening is part of the issue for a lot of people.
Well not exactly .... I'm a child of the 70s and when everyone was around the TV on Sunday night we would all have our own things going. I was playing with toys and mom might be reading or knitting. Dad always had his beers to keep him occupied.
If you're not paying attention to the screen, you're certainly not paying attention to subtitles.
A lot of people glance up at the screen, read the subtitles, then go back to scrolling.
It's not even like I can't hear or anything. It's just sound mixing is terrible.
It really is amazing to me how subtitles have become the norm. Everyone I know uses them. And it’s all cause the audio is just trash. No matter the audio setup. Expensive atmos surround sound, entry level sound bar, Sonos whatever, tv speakers. They all sound like shit and everyone uses subtitles.
If a motherfucker could properly mix audio I wouldn't need them.
If I wouldn't have to turn the volume ALL THE WAY UP followed by ALL THE WAY DOWN because your show/movie can't decide if we're whispering or blowing the planet up every ten seconds, I wouldn't need them.
That's cause you probably are listening to a 5.1 or 7.1 audio on your 2.0 speakers. You got no center channel and that's where the dialog happens.
This is the issue with TVs most of the time. You can either downmix 5.1 to 2.0 somehow, be lucky and have a setting on your TV that can downmix for you, or buy 5.1 sound system.
"Yeah well, it sounds perfect in my soundproof bunker on my $10,000 cans, I don't know why you think Inwould test the sound out in a cluttered living room setting on a $300 TV with no surround sound."
-- Average Present Day Audio Engineer
I keep hearing things are mixed for the theater, but I went to the theater to see the odyssey the other day for the first time in a while, and it had the same problem! Sound mixing is trash these days...
the first film i really noticed it in was Corpse Bride. been a problem for 21 years.
Yeah "these days" is getting to be a pretty wide range you're not wrong 😅
it was just one scene in Corpse Bride, too. a single song, I finally watched it with the subtitles on and understood it this year. I understood some delightful jokes and lyrics for the first time! I want to cast so many aspersions at our dear friend Alan Smythee at the sound department on that film, but like half the sound department went uncredited so i get it.

Are they both named Billy? Edit: I realize non-Billy spoke up for Billy