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I like being able to intervene (especially for parking and minor repositioning and stuff), but I have to say FSD on the newer models of Tesla with lidar is pretty good: it is actually less convenient to actually drive than to let it drive you. Of course that's both because the self driving is very decent AND because by removing the gear stalks it's sort of less convenient to drive manually IMO.

You still have to be more or less engaged which is how it should be, but it doesn't get tired or distracted and drift in lanes, it doesn't look out the window and forget to brake or brake too hard, and it effectively raises the quality bottom line.

Now, of course, just like everyone else, I'm an above average driver and also NN driven vehicles aren't PERFECT so why the hell would you let them drive anyway?

I all seriousness I like the option to offload to a more or less functional autopilot, but I wouldn't be comfortable in a car with no controls or overrides at all at this point.

Bruh, I don't even like being a passenger with a human driver. I need to drive myself or I walk.

A long drive gives me time to think without the distraction I get when I don't have to keep my eyes on the road. I'd just grab my phone in a FSD vehicle and waste my time door scrolling as usual.

I like to drive. I like being in control of my car and, although I don't really care about "owning" it, I don't like the level of connectivity "Driverless" cars have. I'd never want one.

That said, I hate other drivers. Staring at their phones, not signaling, speeding, generally driving like a jackass. If giving up driving meant that no one else was driving either? Maybe. I just might.

I'd much prefer trains and buses, with reasonable cycling infrastructure nearby (to include lockable bike garages).

less of both; more mass transit

Trains

I’m a good driver, and AI is fucking stupid.

The only way you could possibly convince me to even get into a self driving car would be if my only other option was to get into a self flying helicopter.

Also, just to nitpick, the self driving car can’t “go rogue”, that would imply that it has consciousness, sentience, an understanding of what it’s actually doing, judgement, etc. a bunch of shit it doesn’t have. Self driving cars can and do “malfunction” frequently, but they can’t “go rogue”.

Don’t let the techno fascists’ constant anthropomorphic descriptions of their fuckware chat bots confuse you.

I'm a "car guy", I'll give up driving when they put me in the ground. I don't trust an AI to make snap decisions, I don't trust it to prioritize human life over property damage, and most importantly I like to drive.

I prefer public transit

Considering the driverless car doesn't yet exist, I'll go with human operated.

I think automatic transmissions were a mistake. There'd be a lot less shit drivers if you had to pass the driving test with a manual.

I’ve been driving for a few decades now and I’ve seen plenty of edge cases during that time where driverless cars likely wouldn’t do very well. A few recent examples:

• A car on fire in the middle of an intersection. Cars drove around it on the red light to make way for approaching fire trucks.
• I stopped at a red light at a construction zone and was watching for the light to turn green, and didn’t see a police officer standing next to the construction crew trying to wave me through. I finally noticed him when he yelled at me.
• There’s a traffic light near me where two roads intersect at about a 30 degree angle. You regularly see both the red & green signals for both roads when stopped. I’ve seen Teslas that misread red signals as green be cause of this.

By the time you solve all the issues with self driving cars you'll always end up with some form of train. So I would suggest skipping the extra steps.

Less cars, less parking, less roads, less sprawling cities.

Trains, pls.

Until EVERY vehicle is self-driving then no, I'll drive myself

I hate self driving cars for 2 reasons:

1, they don't work well. They're out there causing accidents.

2, who is in command? Who do we jail when it kills someone?

Modern day AI models? Nononononononono

I want the self-driving car because I would be a really bad driver.
AI enables me to do stuff at a quality level I couldn't reach myself even if training the skill would be fun. And for driving that means I could get more freedom of movement without being able to drive.
AI is also about accessibility.

I have intense driving anxiety and only drive around my area willingly, so self-driving cars (or just more trains) would help me a lot.

Whatever can move the most people the safest and the fastest. Would love some great mass transit.

The more skills people acquire and use throughout their lives, the better. I prefer people behind the wheels of cars. Some automated commuter trains already exist, and that's cool, but driving is a skill that should be kept by the masses.

even Teslas still require a human driver.

That's because musk is a moron who made Tesla ditch LIDAR for optical sensors.

Waymo taxis are fully autonomous and are already safer than humans.

Humans are absolutely horrible at driving. It's a major cause of death. Computers don't get tired, distracted, or intoxicated.