oh my god AGAIN?!
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I like a distro with problems that I can relate to.
Bad memory/routines? We have to be related. Since that feels like me.
HOW THE FUCK DID THEY MANAGE IT AGAIN
They managed this again by not actually managing it... again.
They have embraced the meme
Why set a reminder when an expiration will do the same job
some iconic duos in the Linux community: Arch and AUR malware, Ubuntu and bad updates, NixOS and community/team members leaving, Manjaro and failing to renew its cert.
Welcome to Linux, do you want the BenevolentDictatorOS, WeaponsManifaturerOS, MalwareOS or Debian?
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Ubuntu and bad updates
This is the only drama in your list I'm not familiar with already. What/when did they last break?
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you forgot the oldest of them all, Debian and the its museum, their repos
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The funniest thing about this is that it needs a single Bash script and a cronjob to solve (unless they got a REALLY bad hoster).
That bash script probably exists a bazillion times already⦠so even an LLM could spit it out for them.
Their organisational structure must be abhorrent for nobody to feel even remotely responsible for this.
Most web server have ACME support built-in nowadays, setup is a matter of minutes, no scripting required. This has been a solved problem for years, any sysadmin who can't handle this basic task has no business running public-facing servers.
Yeah, caddy automatically renews certs by default, as does traefik as far as i can tell, and certbot installs a timer for this.
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And my friends wonder why I recommend against Manjaro...
Manjaro once again demonstrating they're not a serious distro/project, hahaha
Again????? Again???????????
BINGO!
In fact I got a full 5x5 card of bingo because I wrote "Manjaro doesn't renew its cert" in all of the boxes.
Iβm shocked it even has any users tbh.
Well, Manjaro popped up when a lot of people cannot install Arch on their own. Same thing with Ubuntu and Debian. Once a userbase formed, people follow suit I guess.
It was part of my linux journey long ago, and TBH I bet many still run into in from historical recommendations and popularity.
But I think CachyOS is taking over their "preconfigured arch with the most SEO" spot.
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A little stability and consistency in the world, manjaro always delivers when it comes to this.
Like, when you... "get" the certificate... Doesn't it say... "on it" exactly which date it expires? So maybe set a thing in your calendar or an alarm on your phone or some shit? How hard can this be?
LetsEncrypt also gives you a month to update certificate, you don't even have to do it yourself, just run a script once a week in cron. That's such a level of incompetence I wonder why anyone will trust them with a distro when they can't even do such a simple task.
yes, but the people who want to implement that are held back and sabotaged by the guy who owns the shit. this is not about incompetence.
Dunno... Lack of collaboration skills in a Linux distro seems a lot like incompetence to me...
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Why isnβt this an automated processs for them?
Why isn't it for everyone? How often I see this with, I mean, major actors is head shakingly baffling.
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Why isnβt this an automated processs for them?
Because manjaro.org is controlled personally by Phil, the CEO of the company, who's paranoid about letting anybody else handle it. And also can't figure out how to renew automatically, apparently. People have to remind him on Discord. π€¦
Everything else *.manjaro.org (forums, mirrors etc.) is handled by different people and have never expired afaik.
It's literally just the main webpage that has this problem, everything else about the distro is never impacted.
I wonder if they are still on an old cert system.
This came up last time the cert expired iirc.
Tl;dr one of the founders is holding up the infra not allowing any change. According to someone who worked on Manjaro, it was trivially easy to get this fixed, but that single person simply wouldn't approve it. Last I checked they sent the founder an ultimatum: either hand over the project or see the staff walk. I suppose the staff walked.
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This is literally why I stopped using Manjaro.
Iβve botched 2 Manjaro installs just doing a pacman -Syu while their certs were expired and I ended up with an incomplete upgrade.
Never once had this issue with EndeavorOS.
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Seems fine for me now. In fact it looks like they switched to Let's Encrypt for certification so maybe they learned something from last time.
Perhaps the looming prospect of having to do it every 47 days was enough.
Yep... Validation of my decision to cachyos after my last drive needed surgery.
Holy shit this is so stupid I can't defend them anymore ππ
Is there a running tally somehwere? I need something like the credible defense guys' "0 days since airplane dropped in oceans"
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just install certbot + a daily cron
I think the Manjaro devs can't read. Could you mime it?
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Just set your device clock to a day before 8/23, problem solved.
We're gonna sse the year of the linux desktop long before we see the year of default ACME lmao
I thought the devs were supposed to be taking back the project. I'm guessing that didn't happen.
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Floorp sounds like an alien or galaxy from Rick and Morty
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