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One of multiple live bullets found on the set of “Rust” by investigators of the 2021 fatal shooting was discovered in the bandolier of actor Jensen Ackles, according to crime scene technician Marissa Poppell.

Poppell disclosed the detail while on the stand during the second day of testimony in the involuntary manslaughter trial of actor Alec Baldwin, nearly three years after cinematographer Halyna Hutchins was fatally shot on the New Mexico set of the Western film.

Asked about the live rounds of ammunition that were discovered on set, Poppell said investigators found some on a prop cart, in a box of ammo and also in two prop gun holsters — the one worn by Alec Baldwin and another worn by co-star Ackles.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This case has been going on for a while. Offhand, I can think of at least three toddlers who killed themselves or someone else using a gun that the owner knew was loaded.

None of those adults has been arrested. But the guy who was told his gun had blanks is responsible?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think it’s bc he is also a producer. The case hinges on him being responsible for safety of the crew and being repeatedly negligent.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

One of ten producers. And the one who was mostly in charge fundraising.

The people who were actually in charge of safety and the guns told Baldwin it was safe.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So it's not exactly about the shooting itself but creating the negligent conditions that allowed it to happen. From what I understand, as a producer he had his crew cut as many safety corners as possible to reduce costs. His direction to cut corners led to oversights in safety, which led to the prop masters making safety mistakes and accidentslly loading a live round into a firearm designated as a prop, which led to a person dying because of an on set accident. If he didn't direct his crew to cut corners, the chances of somebody dying is dramatically reduced and makes this line of work incredibly safe despite the potentially dangerous implements used.

So the case is about "did the executive decisions Baldwin make to cut corners on safety contribute to the death of someone on set?"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Again, I point out that parents of children who killed/died aren't being held to the same level of responsibility.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They should be. Is that your point? That they should be, because I think any sane person would agree.

If you're arguing that the responsible parties in this incident shouldn't be prosecuted because another person is getting away with manslaughter… well that's a bit silly isn't it?

I can't tell what your intentions are, because nuance is hard via text

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not to derail but I just want to say that this is an impeccably crafted and balanced comment.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I spotted it too, it is well reasoned with an excellent flow of thought. I appreciate that others see it too and commented on it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

NGL I rode the high from these two comments for like three days ♥️

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

And your reply did the same for me, hope you are having a wonderful week! 🖖

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago
  1. What is live ammo doing on the set period
  2. What is the prop master doing? (Was there even one?)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why can't they use specially made guns for Hollywood. Like, you won't be able to fit real ammo in these weapons to begin with. Let me guess, money. They don't want to spend the money.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I just saw where Guy Ritchie exclusively used air soft guns on The Covenant because it was right after this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

That would've changed Bullet Tooth Tony's speech a bit I guess. "And the fact that you've got Replica written down the side of your guns... Oh and mine does too because this is a movie and we all need to be safe."