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On August 8, police arrived on the scene of Long Branch Lagoon Water Park in Dodge City, Kansas, to the sight of three self-described “bearded, burly men” who had been in the women’s bathroom and changing area. The manager of the municipally run property allegedly screamed and rushed children out the door.

The men knew this was likely. They didn’t agitate any of the women; they didn’t remove their clothes or make crass comments. They simply used the gendered spaces that the state of Kansas requires them to use by law, because these men are transgender.

“Supporters of SB244, including Attorney General Kris Kobach and Senate Majority Leader Ty Masterson, billed it as a way to keep men out of women’s spaces; it clearly requires some men to enter women’s spaces,” a press release sent to news outlets reads. So, these men took action—using malicious compliance to prove their point.

“Segregating people by suspected genitalia does nothing to improve public safety; it does quite the opposite by opening Kansans up to sexual harassment and discrimination. At no point should anyone be asking anyone else what genitals they have in public.”

The men, dressed in yellow “Compliance Crew” shirts, were part of a small group of trans-masculine Kansans who used the women’s room at facilities across the state that day in a coordinated action. They were also spotted at a zoo, a library, a museum, and other parks. They were in Emporia, Great Bend, Garden City, and Dodge City. At the library, at least one patron complained; at other places, the men used the bathroom and received dirty looks, and simply left the space without confrontation.

But at Long Branch Lagoon, members of the Kansas Compliance Crew resorted to having to describe their genitals to police in order to resolve the matter and avoid arrest.

“The men had a discussion with the manager and police and explained the situation, including uncomfortable descriptions of their bodies,” the press release said. Furthermore, both the manager and the police reportedly said “they had never heard of SB244 nor been notified by any government entity of its passage.”

“I could easily continue using the men’s restroom under the radar,” said Ray Vieux, who participated as one of the demonstrators.

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[–] ReluctantZen@feddit.nl 1 points 10 minutes ago* (last edited 9 minutes ago)

So, these men took action—using malicious compliance to prove their point.

Is it malicious compliance? They went to the restroom they were told to go to. It's more a demonstration of what Kansas law actually means.

[–] Bootyhole@lemmus.org 31 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

A friend of mine is a lesbian. She identifies fully as female. She does not want to be a man at all. She is a woman who wears somewhat men's type clothing for the comfort. Her face is extremely feminine. She does not try to present as a man at all.

She's had numerous issues going to the bathroom. One time male employees of the bar went into the women's loo and opened the stall she was in, without identifying themselves or saying anything... while she was changing her pad. I was at the mirror when it happened and tried to stop them. I was physically pushed away and told to stfu.

These MEN walked in on her while she was cleaning her period. It's clear she's female at this point, but they didn't Apologize and close the stall door. They stood there and yelled at her while she was trying to put a new pad on without pulling her panties up, because it would stain them.

They didn't Apologize. I asked them to. She asked them to. They demanded to see her ID saying she was female before they'd close the stall door. I ended up going out of the bathroom and calling 911 to say that 3 men sexually harassed a woman in a stall while she was cleaning her period. They said "well, we thought she was a man so it's ok". But she was doing nothing to anyone.

The owner tried giving us a $200 bar tab, but I told her to refuse because if legal issues came from it, it would be like accepting the pay out.

She still has mental stress issues when she goes out and has to use the bathroom, especially while on her period. We only go to places where people know her or places that have unisex bathrooms.

These maga a holes wanted to "protect women" by forcing a woman to change her pad in front of them. Even if they thought she was a man, was that the right move? Even if she was a man, would that have been the right move? I was in that bathroom with her. I'm extremely feminine. So, even if my friend Bri was trans ... these dudes were willing to bust in the women's room aggressively on someone they knew was definitely a woman.

It's not about protecting children. They just want to fight people and have a reason to "legally" and aggressively force themselves into women's bathrooms.

I think back on that day a lot. I should have immediately viewed these men as the threat they genuinely were and pulled either my canister of cs gas or my lifecard (single Action .22) but I was in shock. And I only had a single action on me. I'm a tall woman. If I defended us, both my friend and I would probably be dead right now. And those guys would have gotten probation for killing us.

Is not about protecting women or kids. Bc those same people think every woman who has reported a sexual assault are "false allegations ruining a man's life" (false allegations are real. But they're very very very rare. )

[–] fritobugger2017@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago

I too enjoy a bit of malicious compliance.

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 51 points 15 hours ago (8 children)

And you think this would be easily resolved with well designed unisex bathrooms where each stall is completely private.

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[–] moondoggie@lemmy.world 12 points 11 hours ago

Ally McBeal’s law firm had one like that almost 30 years ago. You’d think there would have been more of them popping up, at least in law firms.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Half the public washrooms in Toronto are like that. Many of them have a sink in the booth itself.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 20 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

where each stall is completely private.

But then what if people do the drugs!??!?!?!

Gotta have those stall gaps to make sure nobody ever gets high.

[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Clean needle dispensers and needle disposal bins?

[–] nonfuinoncuro@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago

true good thing we fixed that problem

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

Hey as long as people are washing their hands then it dont matter to me.

So often the person next to me walks out without a rinse even lmao

[–] auzy1@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Thats what they did at my climbing Gym (Urban Climb). They're full length cubicles and seem soundproof pretty much.

Gendered bathrooms only triggers homophobes in practice. If you had a unisex bathroom, they wouldn't even notice. And on facebook at least, it always seems to be the people who seem highly abusive, who you wouldn't want near your kids anyway who make a big deal about it.

At concerts here in Australia, nrgptr switching to unisex, it was fairly common for many women to line up for the mens bathrooms (as they they were often less busy)

If your first instinct is that "they're going to rape your kids", the problem is you

[–] Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

I love this. The one time I used a gender neutral bathroom I was annoyed because there were no urinals. Meaning I had to wait for the slower sitting pissers.

95% of the time I'm using a public restroom it's to drain the main vein in the piss trough and move on.

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[–] BeerStainedBunny@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 11 hours ago

Allies and the community never really talk about how trans masculine people in general get targeted. Apparently we aren't worth mentioning until it's too late

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 104 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (35 children)

If I were in charge bathrooms would be single rooms with nothing but a toilet.

Handwash sink is outside.

There is a person who maintains the facilities and offers a mint candy to only people who wash their hands.

If were gonna police anything in the bathrooms it should be hand washing.

[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 hours ago

a mint candy to only people who wash their hands.

It all goes back to pavlov

[–] bl4ckp1xx13@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 18 hours ago

In my secondary school, it was a small school as far as the building went, so to save space they operated exclusively unisex toilets.

The "bathrooms" were simply open-plan onto the main corridors, with sinks on one side, and maybe 15 individual cubicles on the other. There were no urinals, no gendered spaces, once outside the cubicle you'd be in view of anyone walking through the corridor. There were 4 stories including the ground floor, with these unisex toilets on levels 1 and 3.

Never did anything happen, never heard any complaints from anyone about them, it was, dare I say, perfect.

Petition for the abolishment of traditional gendered spaces, individual cubicles is all we need.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 3 points 11 hours ago

A school did this. They converted a gendered restroom into several private, non-gendered toilet areas, by installing full-height walls and doors around the toilets. The law in the state said that if the hand washing area was considered a private space, it was a "changing area", and must be segregated by gender. But, if this space was not "private", it was only a hand washing area and not a "changing area".

So they ensured the hand washing area was considered "public" by cutting a hole in the wall between the hand washing area and the hallway.

And they pissed off pretty much everyone on every side of the issue.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I like it, but I would put a urinal in as well. Not because as a male I would appreciate that more, but as a male, I've seen what other savages do to the toilet seat when they have to hit a stationary target from a couple feet away. I don't want to punish sitters with that.

[–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Do urinals tend to stink more?

I feel like people flush less because after the pee drains out you can't see it any more, despite it still being there in the trap.

Some autoflush periodically or when you open the door.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

If they are cleaned regularly, I don't think it's a problem, but auto flushers would be a solid choice. Bathrooms in the smaller gas stations along the interstate, not the truck stops, often have the worst bathrooms. You'll smell stale pee when you walk in, and it may be from the urinal, but it also could be from any other surface in there. But really, a light auto flush and regular cleaning will mitigate any stink, and if it didn't, the smell is still probably better than the aforementioned piss covered toilet seats.

I go snowboarding in Colorado every year, and in the lodge at the top of Keystone I think, they don't have flushers. Not sure how it works, but they don't stink. Somehow they're engineered to be okay without them. I've also seen some bats will just dump a bucket of ice in the urinals that melts over time.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 72 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Beginning to suspect these laws exist to criminals the existence of transgender people.

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 hours ago

They do, its being pushed in the UK a fair bit lately.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 21 points 14 hours ago

Not just transgender -- anybody who doesn't quite conform to gender norms.

A cis man who looks too feminine or a cis woman who looks too masculine will also be a victim of these laws, because people 'suspect' them of being trans.

It ultimately boils down to 'conservatives' trying to enforce gender norms, as they always have: at the point of a gun.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (9 children)

I can kind of understand why places like women's domestic violence shelters and women's prisons need a legal definition of "woman" in order to define who is allowed in them (and have no opinion on what it should be). Places where there is actual physical or logistical infrastructure in place to make sure men don't enter them…

But bathrooms? Someone wanting to commit sex crimes (or similar) against women in bathrooms is just going to walk into them and do exactly that, they aren't going to change their legal gender just to do that because that doesn't make it either easier or harder to physically get in there.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I can kind of understand why places like women’s domestic violence shelters and women’s prisons need a legal definition of “woman” in order to define who is allowed in them

I've found that a lot of these policies are a legacy of affirmative action in response to the historic gulf in wealth between women and men.

They don't exist to keep men out. They exist to give women in abusive relationships a place to go without facing homelessness.

One might argue that gay men and trans-people can find themselves in exactly the same kind of relationships, for exactly the same reasons.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 3 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

One might argue that gay men and trans-people can find themselves in exactly the same kind of relationships, for exactly the same reasons.

Straight cis men can also be the victim of an abusive relationship. Maybe not quite as frequently, but it happens.

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[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 26 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

I was waiting for this to happen.
Props to the brave boys for sticking their necks out, when no one would have cared if they used the men's room.

Then again, no one cares what goes on in there :'(

[–] JennyLaFae@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 hours ago

There was so much harassment/assault happening in the boys room in my elementary/middle school my baby trans ass thought trans men and trans women all used the women's room for safety.

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