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The lack of a U.S. carrier in the Pacific may be short-lived if the Navy deploys another in the next couple of months. But it shows how the open-ended operations with Iran are running some American sailors ragged, analysts say, while the Trump administration further retreats from the Asia-Pacific region and focuses on the Western Hemisphere.

“The administration says that the Pacific is supposed to be the most important behind the Western Hemisphere,” said Greg Poling, director of the Southeast Asia Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. Instead, the U.S. is “doing the exact opposite” of its previously expressed goal of pulling out of the Middle East.

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[–] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 83 points 2 weeks ago

Bye Taiwan, so long and thanks for all the chipsets.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 75 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If Iran can run the Navy ragged, imagine what India or China can do

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

So much of the joke is that they won't need to.

唯一的制胜之策就是不参与

[–] NegentropicBoy@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Translated to be “The only winning move is not to play.”

[–] redsand@infosec.pub 6 points 2 weeks ago

China has attained WOPR technology!

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

妛挧暃椦槞蟐袮閠駲墸壥彁

[–] inari@piefed.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Someone went on Hacker News today huh

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

someone replied to my reply in the thread and I remembered this, so posting here - https://lemmy.world/post/50701889/25315013 - ignore or look as you wish, I know your comment above was just a quick thing, but sitll thought I'd link to where I found it since I ran across it again :)

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[–] _chris@lemmy.world 59 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Man, all this is doing is showing any potential enemies just how fucking toothless the US is. Amazing show.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 32 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

this. its amazing how quickly he gutted us to the point we are a paper tiger.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It really is incredible. So much carnage in so short a time. We're like 19 months into his 48 month term. It almost seems planned.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 6 points 2 weeks ago

It was. That's why Putin wanted him to be president.

The destruction of the US was always the goal.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And yet we still spend so much freaking money on our military.

[–] _chris@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I’d argue it’s going to military contractors who are spending a lot on “research”. Grifters all the way down.

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Especially that dork who named his companies after Tolkien things and practically has almost all the world's cameras.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Dude is literally acting like the manchurian candidate

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Manchurian Candidate: (intelligently acts on codewords after sophisticated brainwashing)

Donchurian Candidate: "Oh hey Pooty how's it hangin. Sabotage an American institution? Another one? How much money? Sounds like a deal. A great deal. Biglyest deal."

[–] pnwpixel@programming.dev 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He said while sipping on his cup of covfefe...

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think I've lived to see a president who wasn't accused of this

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

But very few had such obvious clandestine obligations to foreign adversaries and sociopathic individuals.

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 13 points 2 weeks ago

Thats hunny to his ears.

[–] metermatic26@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Leaders around the world are treating the US military defeat against Iran as a given and are planning for a future that does not include the US in any decisive role.

The current response of the nations in the Middle East is telling: plans are being drawn up and security cooperations being forged, while pretty much ignoring the US altogether.

Its likely a precursor for what we’ll see happen with nations surrounding the Sea of Japan and South China Sea in the upcoming months.

The largest, most powerful nation on earth has literally botched this war. Militarily, politically and economically. And as a result we’re now witnessing the US led global world order unravel completely. I think we’ve entered a very scary time.

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (9 children)

botched

It was never winnable. No western nation would have won against Iran. The war is the dumbest war to begin with because of how unwinnable it was. Why are people acting as if Trump could have outsmarted Iran at any point ever? No NATO military leader would have won. The best choice for anyone is to just not start a war with Iran. A smart leader would have just not bombed Iran. No smart leader could win this war. That's how stupid the war is. The smartest NATO leader right now, if they were fighting a war with Iran, would admit defeat.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 2 weeks ago

The US hasn't won a war since WWIi, and our current leaders are literally the dumbest people who have ever managed a government. Nobody fears, or cares about America any more.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 2 weeks ago

Everything is actually going according to plan.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No one expects China to invade Taiwan because an American aircraft carrier has left the region. But the carrier’s absence gives the Chinese another opportunity to show its strength, said Bryan Clark, a former Navy submariner who is a defense analyst at the Hudson Institute.

Uh, fucking, I DO!

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

How many years and how fortuitous do the circumstances have to get before people stop insisting an invasion is imminent?

There's an enormous amount of value in China and Taiwan remaining friendly trading partners. Westerners refuse to acknowledge this.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago (17 children)

It would be indeed incredibly stupid for Xi to try to invade Taiwan. There's the economic cost and there's a real possibility that he could wind up in the same situation Trump and Putin are currently in. Lots of those pesky drones creating a stalemate situation.

But authoritarians are being really stupid lately, so we can't discount the possibility of Xi being as stupid as Trump and Putin.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

China is the one superpower who isn't wasting their resources on a pointless war, and are investing heavily in infrastructure and their people, and their manufacturing base for EVERYTHING is unparalleled.

They are taking over the world without firing a shot. Why would they screw that up just to take a tiny island that is no more than a symbol. Let the Westerners think they have some sort of power over them, they know the real truth.

[–] mrbutterscotch@feddit.org 5 points 2 weeks ago

You are saying that like the US and Russia weren't in way better positions before their respective wars.

What the commenter you're replying to is saying, is that we can't trust dumbfuck dictators to not make the stupid decision of invading someone else, no matter how idiotic it might be.

Why would they screw that up just to take a tiny island that is no more than a symbol.

Dictators have startet wars for way less.

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The point of having 11 carrier is that you can always have several of them in maintenance while others are in operation and still keep a reserve. It's a massive mismanagement of assets to somehow have carriers running ragged and yet still need to pull carrier from other commitments.

Can't even be competently evil. Yee yee ass Wana be evil empire.

[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

well, it might be smart to take taiwan now, even with the worldwide upset this would cause.
There is a good chance that the west has no answer to it.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

it might be smart to take taiwan now

Or just peacefully integrate socio-economically over the next 50 years. You kill a lot less people that way

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

China seems to be forgoing the peaceful, long term route as of late.

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[–] oyzmo@piefed.social 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (10 children)

China takes Taiwan - ram prices will go through the roof - don't understand how trumptydumpty's tech friends allowed him to do this. Oh well, the world may become a better place with China in the captain's seat; Xi at least seems more intelligent and stable than Trump.

[–] barryamelton@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

China takes Taiwan - ram prices will go through the roof - don’t understand how trumptydumpty’s tech friends allowed him to do This

Because USA tech friends want that: they want the trillion profits from squeezing the worker class out of the means of compute. Once we are all slaves we will pay back the dividends tenfold. They don't care about China or Taiwan, they only care about China's and Taiwan's billionaire class, which is with them anyways.

[–] djmikeale@feddit.dk 7 points 2 weeks ago

Additionally, if China takes Taiwan, they'll be able to exert heavy influence on Korea and Japan, as a huge part of their import/export flows through Taiwan Strait. Might be able to get the countries to cut down on diplomatic relations with the West, perhaps even getting rid of a few of USA's military bases in Japan and South Korea

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 9 points 2 weeks ago

Iran has become a black hole that also slaps the shit out of the Orange Jackass. How multifaceted.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago

Exposed flank. These guys are not MI (military intelligence), they are AI (alternative intelligence). Oh, stinky pete what have you wrought?

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

American ally-ship increasingly loses value as the Donald Administration progresses.

I wonder what the next president will do to try and win it back.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Latin American dictators seem to be lining up behind him and Rubio like ducklings.

I think the next president is going to inherit an absolute rogue's gallery of "friends"

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