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    [–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 108 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    I mean that's the whole deal for me. I can take it if I know I can fix it

    There is no fixing microsoft

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    [–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 63 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    me shily walking over to my timeshift snapshots after running

    sudo chmod -R 775 /

    Instead of with a dot...

    [–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Plot twist: Your snapshots were mounted when you did that and are now also very accessible.

    [–] Ooops@feddit.org 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    People actually thought about that... so snapshots are read-only by design

    [–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    shudders

    But no I use an externall HDD docked with a... Usb dock thing whatever it's called

    That's accessible from a USB Ubuntu... Right?

    Right?????

    [–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Sounds to me like you haven't tested your backups suitably if you are asking.

    [–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago

    I did test with a usb. I'm joking

    [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    TimeShift was probably one of the most important teaching aides I had when I first started on Linux.

    I've been on Bazzite for a couple years now, so I have no need for it anymore.

    But I learned sooooo much by breaking my EndeavourOS install and then rolling back.

    I've only had to rollback with Bazzite once so far (it's hard to break), and it was literally just one rpm-ostree command. Love it.

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    [–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 48 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Linux Inc. does not spend billions of dollars ensuring you have no options but Linux.

    It also doesn't exist, so that helps too.

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    [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

    One of the reasons I love Linux, actually.

    Nobody to blame but myself, so let's start figuring this shit out I guess

    [–] zurohki@aussie.zone 12 points 1 month ago

    You can dig as deep as you care to, all the way down to source code. And if you can't read code, you can learn to. If you don't want to spend the time, that's completely reasonable. But it's your choice.

    [–] Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Tbf the biggest problems i had with linux were caused by some Windows partition so the first image may as well apply to the second case sometimes.

    [–] BlueOysterCultist@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I weirdly got a problem after blowing away my windows partition

    Shutting down the computer (mint) doesn’t fully shut down anymore, so I gotta physically hold down the power button til it goes off

    Internet says something with grub is probs wack, but I’m lazy so I just made a shortcut to “shutdown -f 0” and called it good

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    [–] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Eh, not always. For months after I started using Bazzite, Dolphin's Windows EXE thumbnailer didn't work. Should it have worked? Yeah. Why didn't it? Who fucking knows. Did it get fixed? Yes. How did it get fixed? New Plasma version I guess.

    [–] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

    Thats the other thing: a glaring issue or bug with linux is likely to be fixed within a few days.

    Ive had issues with microsoft in 2012 that still exist today

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    [–] red_tomato@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Other Linux users to you: RTFM you fucking donkey!

    [–] Allero@lemmy.today 15 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    Hot take: user-friendly system shouldn't require the manual to operate normally.

    [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Some things are just inherently complex. And especially if you're going to use CLI (not user unfriendly in any way imo), you're gonna want to make sure you're typing in the right stuff.

    Linux has the manuals built-in, they're called "man pages"

    [–] muhyb@programming.dev 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Let's start learning with how to use man:

    man man

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    [–] djdarren@piefed.social 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    People in these parts will throw shade at macOS, and I get it. But whatever you think of Apple, they've traditionally done a pretty good job of making their OS such that you don't really need a manual unless you start doing more complex stuff. Someone who's not particularly computer literate can buy a cheap Mac and have it up and running in no time, without ever really needing to seek help.

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    [–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 month ago

    We need to get over that for newbs. The experienced person already knows they're a donkey.

    [–] notaviking@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Yeah every issue is basically a mystery that will lead you down a rabbit hole, be prepared to learn a lot of things and copy and paste code you do not fully understand, well if you are a layman like me

    [–] tempest@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    Or just keep back ups and reinstall the OS.

    Honestly I've been using Linux for like 15 years and there have been times that just reinstalling which takes 45 minutes would have been the fastest and easiest solution to a problem I will likely never encounter again.

    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    I recently switched to CachyOS. While I don't have the same hard-on for it that most users seem to have, I like how it's set up by default to create a btrfs snapshot of the root filesystem before and after each update. Grub can even boot into individual snapshots directly. I'm almost looking forward to the day it saves my ass after an update breaks my system.

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    [–] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 7 points 1 month ago

    No, that's pretty typical even for an experienced Windows admin.

    [–] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    Definitely true when learning Linux, but to be fair, things do break on their own. Example: just yesterday I updated fedora and it broke my network connections for my vms. I certainly didn’t do that, and it seems to be a repeating issue.

    But you wanna know what the difference is?

    1. A 30 second web search identified the problem and a quick edit of the network.conf text file fixed the issue.
    2. even if I couldn’t fix it, I could very easily roll the updates back
    3. this issue will get fixed for good and won’t still be lingering around for 10 years

    Compare that to me updating win11 on a faster more capable computer a couple weeks ago:

    1. It broke like a bazillion things, well documented on the internet, no solutions other than “we’ll maybe fix that someday”
    2. the computer rebooted THREE times! 3! I’ve seen two-three was a new one
    3. it took 40 minutes on a 32 core threadripper, 64gb ram, plenty of free hard drive space, and a 4090 card. No, it wasn’t years of updates, and it wasn’t a major version update. It was maybe 1.5 months since last update.

    Linux is great, not perfect, but great with great communities.

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    [–] dismay3915@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Because:

    1. You pay for windows ("supposed to pay" atleast)
    2. You cant be mad at a community effort. Don't like it? Fork it or help fix it.
    [–] Eheran@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Indeed, last time I paid for windows was like windows 7. Only free upgrades since then.

    But fixing a bug is not as simple as "fork it or help fix it", those are by far the most complicated options that only a tiny faction of users (can) take.

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    [–] Archimedes@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago

    True freedom means responsibility. You should have the right to destroy yourself and your OS

    [–] Katrisia@lemmy.today 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Still new, trying Linux Mint Cinnamon. I don't think I can break it. It's super user friendly.

    [–] Mountainaire@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

    Don't worry. You can. Just keep tinkering. Get that Timeshift ready...

    [–] Toga77@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    I put mint on My laptop at work and it took 3 months for anyone to ask me about it. My laptop is frequently used by 5 other people with zero Linux experience lol, and barely any real PC experience.

    [–] inzen@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    I put mint on my elderly moms pc. Basically no difference for her. Also less maintenance and issues, since all she does is use the browser, Libre Office writer and print.

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    [–] Dicska@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

    Mine breaks on its own once I sit down with my food to watch some videos.

    I fucking swear it knows when I'm eating.

    I probably have a faulty CPU, though. I wish there was an easy way to tell (after several flawless RAM tests and two different GPUs),

    [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Start dmesg when you're eating, put it in the corner. You can cancel out murphys law with a watched pot never boils.

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    [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

    Yes, when something is forced on a person, that tends to lead to resentment. Meanwhile if a person freely chooses something, they may wonder if they chose properly.

    [–] ResistingArrest@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 month ago

    If I pay 100+ dollars for something I expected to ship with basic drivers. If it’s free, I’m un surprised if and when it rarely doesn’t have the drivers I need

    [–] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 10 points 1 month ago

    "Oh maybe I could fix it by trying this thing."

    "But what if it messes things up?"

    "Ah it'll be just fine if I mess around here just this once."

    "It'll work don't worry."

    [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago
    [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago

    ok one more joke...

    Linux Video Driver after an update repair starter kit

    [–] swooper@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

    I never had issues on windows 11, but fuck that noise.

    Ive since moved CachyOS, I’ve put in 30-60 mins a week fixing or setting up things. The recent was a random “a wedged CEF cache in the Steam client”. Im happy to pay it and i learn more of a system im part of. Im in awe of all the work already done in linux.

    [–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

    I just moved my EXT4 home folder off of my old Cachy install onto my new NixOS install on a different drive before deciding to stick with just installing a fresh CachyOS on that same drive meaning a reformatting. I had meant to just copy the files so now I basically just nuked all my data :(

    Mad at myself right now as I'm seeing if i can save any data using ddrescue and DMDE

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    [–] sockinacock@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Oh look the fstab command I didn't fully understand has written all the NTFS indexes over the partition tables on all my hard drives... Whelp time to learn data recovery.

    [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    I feel like fucking up fstab is a rite of passage

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